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    Default Boxelder sap to syrup?

    My brother-in-law has tapped a dozen or so big boxelders down by his creek, and they were really flowing well during this post-polar vortex thaw. He's been boiling down about 20 gallons of sap in a big stainless pot on the kitchen stove and keeps adding more as he harvests. There is no typical maple fragrance or color, it seems to be a clear/cloudy liquid with egg white fluff floating on the surface. (more fluff than you usually get from maple sap). We're not sure what to expect from a final product. Any experience with boxelder sap/syrup would be appreciated.
    2020: 220 trees, most smaller than 20" diameter, made 25 gallons
    remote location in western Cole County
    5/16" plastic spiles, drain into plastic buckets or sapsaks
    haul sap out of woods using atv & trailer
    wood-fired pans on concrete blocks
    one Leader Half Pint 24 x 33" plus 24 x 30 ss pan from a junkyard
    cook batch process then finish in the kitchen;
    we dont sell our syrup; its for family & friends
    see website www.mosyrup.com

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    For the first 3 years I made syrup I used Boxelder trees. A few things I learned. It takes a lot of Sap! It was usually about 80-100 saloons to make 1 gallon of syrup. The syrup was very dark and sweet. It had a different flavor. Not like syrup made from sugar maples. It was not a flavor that tasted like what you smell when you snap a boxelder branch. It is a unique flavor that our family enjoyed. With a lower sugar content I would expect the sap to not have a super sweet flavor. Due to the volume of sap I would highly recommend not cooking in the house unless you have a very good exhaust system or do not like the wallpaper.
    Good luck

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    Back when my kids were young (the oldest is now 50) we made syrup for family use. We put in 7-9 taps, 3 were in sugar maples and the rest were in Box Elders. It made good syrup. I can't tell you what the sugar % was, we just boiled until it was good density syrup. Did not even have a hydrometer, we just boiled it to 219-220.
    Dave Klish, I recently ordered a 2x6 wood fired evaporator from A&A Sheet Metal which I will be converting to oil fired
    Now have solar, 2x6 finish pan, 5 bank 7x7 filter press, large water jacketed bottler, and tankless water heater.
    Recently bought another Gingerich RO, this one was a 125, but a second membrane was added thus is a 250, like I had.
    After running a 2x3, a 2x6, 3x8 tapping from 79 taps up to 1320 all woodfired, now I'm going to a 2x6 oil fired and a 200-425 taps.

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    Red face Boxelder sap to syrup?

    Last year was my first making syrup and I had two sugar maples (in my yard) and four boxelder (in the woods). I made syrup from both, but I kept them separate. The sugar maple syrup was classically delicious, wonderful on pancakes, etc. The boxelder had a different flavor, I would say more citrus/molasses flavor. Very different. I didn't like it at first, but started to use it on oatmeal and really liked it for that purpose. I think it would be a great ingredient for bbq sauce as well.

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    When we made it, the sap was not kept separate, just blended and the final taste was like sugar maple only syrup, with a little reddish hue to the color.
    Dave Klish, I recently ordered a 2x6 wood fired evaporator from A&A Sheet Metal which I will be converting to oil fired
    Now have solar, 2x6 finish pan, 5 bank 7x7 filter press, large water jacketed bottler, and tankless water heater.
    Recently bought another Gingerich RO, this one was a 125, but a second membrane was added thus is a 250, like I had.
    After running a 2x3, a 2x6, 3x8 tapping from 79 taps up to 1320 all woodfired, now I'm going to a 2x6 oil fired and a 200-425 taps.

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    I tap a few boxelders and keep it separate. I've noticed the earlier season sap stays very light and usually has a flavor a bit like tart blackberries. I've also had very buttery/marshmallow flavored box elder syrup early in the year. Mid-season it will get very similar to maple and then near the end get very molasses-like in flavor. I use the late stuff for making BBQ sauces and it excels at it!

    One of my coworkers goes nuts for the early boxelder syrup. It really is neat stuff.
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    2015 - Small operation. 25 buckets. One excited 5 year old and one 35 year old that feels 5 again.
    2016 - One year older. New Homemade 2x4 Arch, Smoky Lake Pan and looking at 52 maples, 17 box elders and 2 walnut trees.
    2017 - Shurflo 4008 hooked to 42 stingy silver maples and a few Norways. A couple buckets on sugars and Norways. 10 box elders.
    2018 - ...a few more taps.
    2019 - ...more taps on 3/16 gravity. This spiral is heading downward in a hurry.
    2020 - 4x400 RO - RB20 (uh-oh!)

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    My first try was the box elder in the back yard. I used a piece of copper pipe for a tap and gave it hell. I was 15 and had never even had or seen maple syrup made but herd some old guys talking about it so I had to try it. I ended up with a quart of supper light syrup that was super sweet with a honey flavor but no maple flavor.
    It would be great sap to add to walnut or birch .
    25 years sugaring
    2018 191taps. Made 80 gallons
    Two taps to a 5 gallon bucket roadside trees.
    A retired dad to hump buckets and do most of the boiling the great wife that let's me spend lots of time and money.
    New Smokey lake 2×6 raised flue SSR on my own version of the silverplate arch.
    2019 new hood and new preheater concept that worked great.
    306 taps roadside trees

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    My brother taps Boxelder trees, seems they are plentiful by him while maple trees are elusive. For him, it's about 60:1 sap-syrup ratio, much higher than I get for tapping my maple trees.

    I usually help him finish the syrup as I have a cup and hydrometer. I think Boxelder sap needs to be watched more closely and the temp needs to be adjusted a lot when it's getting closer to syrup. It bubbles up way more than what I see when I am finishing my maple sap. That said, his syrup is fairly dark with a red tinge to it. Has Molasses undertones to it. I like it. It also filters beautifully, flows way more easily thru my orlon filters and filters clear. My **** maple syrup is a pain to filter, very fine sugar sand, so I've taken to finishing my syrup and storing in my fridge while i let it gravity "filter" then i pour off the clear syrup reheat and can.

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