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    Default Draw off tank help

    I have a 2x6 Smoky Lake Corsair evaporator with their raised flue pan on it. We will have 100 taps this season 80 or so which will be on natural vacuum (3/16 tubing). We will boil on weekends only. We have a 400 gallon bulk tank for sap. I'm thinking of using a stock pot as a draw off tank. What size do you think I should look at getting?

    Thanks in advance!
    2016 - 2 x 4 Randy Worthen built arch and pans 11 taps; 2.625 gallons of syrup!
    2017 - 29 taps; 11.625 gallons of syrup!
    2018 - 30 taps; 98 pints bottled! New sugar house being built, new equipment coming!
    2019 - 125 taps; 50 gallons made! New 2x6 Smoky Lake Corsair arch, drop flue pan, auto draw. Smoky Lake filter press and Steam Bottler
    2020 - 173 taps; only 35 gallons made.
    2021 - 242 taps; New record! 50.5 gallons made!
    2022 - 321 taps; New record! 80 gallons made!

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    It would depend if you want it to hold all of the syrup made that day or if you are going to transfer it as it gets full. If you want it to hold all of it you would need one big enough to hold a little more than you can produce. If you are going to transfer to other pots a 16 or 20 quart will do. I either use a 20 quart stock pot and transfer it into a large one to reheat and filter.
    Smoky Lake 2x6 dropflu pans and hoods on homemade arch
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    Even back to when I had about 600 taps, I drew off into 20 qt. SS pots. I had 4, as I removed one I just put another in it's place. I then dumped it into the small finisher I had at that time. Once I dumped 2 or 3 times, I brought the syrup in the finisher up to 1about 200F and then drew it off into a mixing pot, added my DE and filtered it into my bottler or a bulk container.
    I now have a draw tank, which is plumbed to the filter press pump. From there I pump it to my 2x6 finisher. Then I heat to 205-210, draw into the same mixing tank I mentioned above, filtered it and either send the filtered syrup to my bottler or a SS barrel. As I get 28-30 gal in my finisher, I heat it and filter. My SS barrels are mostly 26.5 gal, but I do have a few that are 16 gal. I always try to heat it for filtering before it gets cold and I filter it. If I don't have enough to fill a drum and do not need more retail containers filled, I let it cool, and then with the next boil I heat and filter then.
    I used to have to carry and dump batches of usually 2-3 gal of hot syrup, now that all syrup moves by using my filter press air diaphragm pump it is much easier (and safer).
    Dave Klish, I recently ordered a 2x6 wood fired evaporator from A&A Sheet Metal which I will be converting to oil fired
    Now have solar, 2x6 finish pan, 5 bank 7x7 filter press, large water jacketed bottler, and tankless water heater.
    Recently bought another Gingerich RO, this one was a 125, but a second membrane was added thus is a 250, like I had.
    After running a 2x3, a 2x6, 3x8 tapping from 79 taps up to 1320 all woodfired, now I'm going to a 2x6 oil fired and a 200-425 taps.

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    I bought a stainless stock pot from ocean State job lot for $40. It's 28 quart and pretty heavy duty for the price. I put a Weldless spout in it and it works great.

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    Jake
    smoky lake 2x6 drop flue SSR on homemade arch
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    I have used stock pots for several years. This year I put a weldless spout on one, and bought a stainless strainer the same size as the diameter of the pot. Will be able to lay a half dozen prefilters on that strainer to filter the draw offs. Filtering that way made my final filtering go WAY better last year!
    Noel Good
    1998 to 2009: 15 taps on buckets, scavenged fire pit and pans
    2010: New 2x4 SS flat pan w/preheater
    2015: New to me Lapierre 18x60 raised flue, new shack, new everything!! 59 taps 23.75 gallons
    2016: 85 taps 19 gallons
    2017: Purchased 2.5 acres and tubed half with 3/16. 145 taps total 49.25 gallons
    2018: 200 taps (162 on 3/16ths 38 on buckets) New NextGen RO 63 gallons
    2019: 210 taps 73.5 gallons
    2023: 210 taps 89.75 gallons
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    I made a three legged round stand I can clamp cone prefilters on and set it over a stainless pot, works great.
    125-150 taps
    Smokey Lakes Full pint Hybrid pan
    Modified half pint arch
    Air over fire
    All 3/16 tubing
    Southern Ohio

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    When we went to a filter press last year we went to a Leader 13 gal ss round bottom with an outlet spigot and valve. We just pump off it direct to the press.
    Ken & Sherry
    Williston, VT
    16x34 Sugarhouse
    1,500 taps on high vacuum, Electric Releaser & CDL Sap Lifter
    Wood-Fired Leader 30"x10' Vortex Arch & Max Raised Flue with Rev Syrup Pan & CDL1200 RO
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    Old Milk pails work really well, I have 3 of them I bought off Ebay, they have 2 handles and you can put a cone pre-filter in the top of them with clothes pins holding it on. Mine are stainless steel delaval pails. Keep in mind that even 4 gallons of syrup in one of those pails is heavy, and awkward at 190°, so you want something substantial.
    Nate Hutchins
    Nate & Kate's Maple
    2022 1000 taps?
    3x10 Intensofire
    20x36 sugarhouse
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    Thanks guys!
    2016 - 2 x 4 Randy Worthen built arch and pans 11 taps; 2.625 gallons of syrup!
    2017 - 29 taps; 11.625 gallons of syrup!
    2018 - 30 taps; 98 pints bottled! New sugar house being built, new equipment coming!
    2019 - 125 taps; 50 gallons made! New 2x6 Smoky Lake Corsair arch, drop flue pan, auto draw. Smoky Lake filter press and Steam Bottler
    2020 - 173 taps; only 35 gallons made.
    2021 - 242 taps; New record! 50.5 gallons made!
    2022 - 321 taps; New record! 80 gallons made!

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