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    Default Shurflo, which switches and relays to use

    I’m currently installing 5/16” lines with 3/4” mainlines for around 250 taps, we have very steep hills here in west central WI, so gravity flow is no issue, however I’ve reading up about the Shurflo setups to help pull sap but have not found anywhere where people have listed the exact items they use. I’m really just looking for info on what thermostat relays people are using and whatever else maybe required to run a 4048 Shurflo pump. So if somebody could start a list with the exact items they ordered and or links to them that would be helpful.

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    If your hills are steep I would run 3/16 tubing> I also have steep hills and originally ran 5/16 and it delivery little to no natural vac. 3/16 blew me away.
    110 taps W.F Mason 2x3 and two turkey friers for finishing

    2011 expanding to a Mason 2x4 with a blower increasing taps to about 200
    2011 Hurricane Irene rips thru my small sugar bush cost me to lose 20% of taps
    2014 I have reworked my lines for 2014
    32 taps on 5/16 line with check valves
    57 taps on 3/16 line with check valves
    55 buckets with total tapped trees of 144

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    It all depends. As it happens, I am doing the VERY SAME THING and am on here looking up info on pumps. Considering the 4048, but trying to figure out if it lets sap through with the motor off or not.

    How do you plan to power it? We are doing a 200 watt solar system with deep cycle battery. I have all the needed items in my ebay cart, I can send you links : https://www.ebay.com/itm/NewPowa-200...t/121644748011

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/12-220V-Dig...Hauw:rk:1:pf:0

    And of course your pump. Not sure which pump you planned to use, but this is enogh for a pump running 18 watts (you need 8x more watts for solar usage).

    here is a video showing it in action:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNd2...47063853518474

    he uses a manifold style mainline (instead of the 3/4in) because the 3/16 lines do better this way on this pump. As for us, we have mostly flat ground so are running 5/16 with a 3/4 mainline with 100 taps (or that's the plan).
    2014: 12 silver and red maples, metal barrel halved lengthwise set over large firepit- 2 gallons and lots of biter and paint primer in syrup.

    2015: 12 black and sugar, 45 silver/red - homemade evaporator of two metal barrels attached and 3 steam table pans cut in (10 gph)

    2016: aiming for 100 black maple plus 25 black walnut - homemade 2x5 steam table into evaporator to try out

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    Steve J, I am planning to add a true vacuum/release setup in the future so that is why I opted to go with the 5/16 lines otherwise I would’ve went with the 3/16 and zandstrafarms, I believe the 4048 has a bypass built into the pump to let sap flow even when it is not running atleast that’s as much as I have gathered from my research on them as for powering it I am planning to use a marine battery and a 100 watt solar panel kit from Harbor freight- https://m.harborfreight.com/100-watt...kit-63585.html it comes with everything needed to charge the battery. My biggest question was trying to find the right thermostat relay and any other switches or relays. I’ve also heard guys using a light bulb inside the box the pump sits in. Wondering if that is really necessary if the pump shuts off with the thermostat anyway?

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    Really any 12 volt temp relay switch will work. As for the light bulb, you are correct. If the temp switch shuts off your pump at or just below freezing you won't need one.
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    2023 - 210 on 3/16 shurflo, sap storage shack w/ 1100 gallon tank - 123 gallons
    2022 - 210 on 3/16 shurflo, homemade vac filter & water jacket canner - 104 gallons
    2021 - 215 on 3/16 shurflo, added 2nd membrane to RO - 78 gallons
    2020 - 210 on 3/16 shurflo, upgraded hp pump on RO - 66 gallons
    2019 - 150 on 3/16 shurflo, Deer Run 125 dolly RO - 73 gallons
    2018 - 120 on 3/16 shurflo, 2x6 raised flue w/hood, homemade arch w/ AUF & AOF - 34.5 gallons

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    Skip harbor freight solar panels. Ebay has a whole kit much cheaper, and you'll need 2 panels for the 4048 (from what I've read regarding watts used). NEWPOWA on ebay has a 200 watt kit for $200 and includes everything.

    Here is the temp switch we ordered: 12-220V Digital LED Temperature Thermostat Controller Temperature Switch Probe

    and the solar kit NewPowa 200W Watt Solar Panel 12V System Controller Mounts MC4 Wire charging Kit

    We are waiting on 1 more part and will assemble this week. From what I read on the bypass, it's more of a priming feature, at least according to the manual I read. OK, I just checked it and it does NOT drain through a bypass. The bypass feature just allows it to vacuum without the need for a collection tank.

    But if you think about it, it shouldn't flow sap unless it hits a certain temp anyway, and if you re using a temp sensor you shouldn't have to worry about bypassing anything. The light bulb inside is to help prevent any leftover liquids from hard freezing.
    2014: 12 silver and red maples, metal barrel halved lengthwise set over large firepit- 2 gallons and lots of biter and paint primer in syrup.

    2015: 12 black and sugar, 45 silver/red - homemade evaporator of two metal barrels attached and 3 steam table pans cut in (10 gph)

    2016: aiming for 100 black maple plus 25 black walnut - homemade 2x5 steam table into evaporator to try out

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    Quote Originally Posted by zandstrafarms View Post
    and you'll need 2 panels for the 4048 (from what I've read regarding watts used). NEWPOWA on ebay has a 200 watt kit for $200 and includes everything.
    I have a 4048 and a 160 watt panel. Is this enough? Had I seen your post about the $200 kit I would have gotten that instead to be safe.
    Smoky Lake 2x6 fuel-oil fired, raised flue, hoods, SSR, concentric exhaust
    Home-built auto draw off
    Home-built RO - double XLE 4040, PLC controlled
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    200 taps on tubing with Shurflo vacuum with solar
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    I hope to set up shureflo system for next year, currently getting all my ducks in a row to set it up this summer if not possibly this season. Well trying to figure everything out I came across mountain maple https://www.mountainmaplefarm.com/details-and-features/ seems like a good guy to check out if you haven't already.
    2018 - 30 buckets boiled on 2 barrel evaporators 2.5 gal
    2019 - 48 on 5/16 tubing and 30 buckets 2x4 WF mason XL 14 gallons made.
    2020 - 85 on 5/16 tubing and 30 buckets and a new cupola on the shack
    2021 - Mountain maple s3 controller with shurflo 4048 pump added 85 on 5/16 30 buckets
    2022 - 85 on 5/16 no buckets this year (next gen sugar maker on tap)

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    The Mountain Maple Controller does more than you can by relays, switches etc that will take time to make and install. My opinion the controller that he has built is the answer for a lot of producers large and smal.
    Scott Knapp
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    3200 Taps 2021
    1700 Taps 2019
    3/16 Gravity 1000 Taps
    5/16 Vacuum 2200 Taps
    Northern NY (Canadian border north)
    sknapp6978@gmail.com
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