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    The reason for the 5/16 drops on 3/16 laterals is because during the freeze - thaw cycle and the temperature drops the tree develops a negative pressure. That causes the tree to pull sap back into the tree. The shuttling of sap back and forth in the drop, spout and tap hole contributes to bacteria growth. This pulling of the sap back in the tree is more evident with 3/16 drops.
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    Hi guys, I've read through the whole 7 pages and wondering about using what breweries and the wine industry use for cleaning and sanitation.
    3-stage is Precarbonate wash, followed by citric acid, to neutralize the base, with sulphur to sanitize, and finally a straight water rinse.
    Based off HD/LD polyethylene research, there is little to no reactivity to the plastic composition with these ingredients.
    The prementioned industries main concern within the food industry is bleach (and other forms) are not allowed, from my understanding.
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    I have been cleaning my 3/16" tubing with white vinegar then star-san sanitizer for 3 years. Vinegar after pulling the taps then sanitizer before tapping the next season.

    I have tried calcium hypochlorite for the first time today and Wow. There was a lot of gunk coming out. I'm not sure if it is impressing because of how well it works and how clean the laterals are or depressing because of how much I have been missing. I used a 1 gallon pump up sprayer with warm water and about 1/2 tsp chlorine, left it set until I got the next lateral filled then drained and flushed with warm water. I was surprised at how much gunk was in my lateral and drops and how clean they look now.
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    I used bright colored electrical tape for a quick repair that I can find easily. Place it on tightly do several tight wraps and keep it in your pocket at all times. If that doesn't work a coupler but that's another place for sawdust and gunk to block the 3/16 line.

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    gbeneke, how well does the electrical tape work with the vacuum? Does it seal well in the cold? I have typically had a difficult time with electrical tape sticking when it is cold but if it is in a pocket inside your coat, it would be warmer and stick better. Good idea. Thanks for sharing.
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    If you use electrical tape do not use cheap off brand stuff. I use the Scotch 33 I think and have no problems in the cold. I have tried the cheaper stuff and it does not work well in the cold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Super Sapper View Post
    If you use electrical tape do not use cheap off brand stuff. I use the Scotch 33 I think and have no problems in the cold. I have tried the cheaper stuff and it does not work well in the cold.
    Super 33+ is the only tape to use, ever, i used to install car electronics, as well as work on heavy equipment, and i have always loved that tape. the cheaper tapes will release their adhesives in colder weather, most of the time, it doesn't even have to be freezing.

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    Scotch 33 is good tape. Just took down our Christmas lights, reindeer, trees etc. I use it to seal off extension cord connections - think Clark Griswald here - and it's nearly impossible to find the end of the tape to unwrap, let alone pull it off the plug. You get what you pay for.
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    I have come up with a few questions concerning 5/16" drops used with 3/16" laterals. The first, I understand that the use of 5/16" tubing for drops is to reduce the amount of sap re-entering the tree in periods of negative pressure but is that simply to be greedy with the sap or to reduce bacteria that the sap has come in contact with once it enters the tubing? If the bacteria concept is the reason, wouldn't the use of 5/16" drops reduce sap re-entering the tree but instead have moist air enter the tap hole? And which (sap or moist air) would transfer bacteria in greater quantity? Also, does the 5/16" drops reduce the plugging of the tees when used with 3/16" laterals? I would think that it would be no different.
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