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    Default 55 gallon Polyethylene Collection Tank originally held tomatoes

    Hi All,

    I have about 40 taps for home use syrup. I have access to some craigslist barrels that held tomatoes.

    Would you use these for collection and if so, what cleaning approach would you suggest prior to use?

    Thanks in Advance
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    When I was first starting out I thought of using used collection barrels but in the end I always went with new. Its a bit more upfront cost but no risk of off flavors.
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    You can never go wrong with getting new. You will be happier in the end spending the extra money for new. I can't imagine buying used and going to all that work and finding out your syrup has a off flavor taste.

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    My first three barrels were lidded-top 55 gal drums and had held tomatoes. They were perfect for what I needed and I wouldn't hesitate to use them again. There was zero off smell or flavor. If you can verify with a label that you are the second user and the first use was a food, you should be good to go.
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    When I was researching this I came across a thread where someone was asking about olive barrels and the potential to impart an off-flavour to the syrup. Someone chimed in that they had used them and had no impact on the flavour or smell of the syrup. I can't quite find the thread though... but if that is the case I would also think the tomatoes would be fine.
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    I have been using some pickled pepper barrels for about 6 years and have never noticed an off flavor in the syrup. Not saying it isn't there, but I have never noticed it. Nobody has commented either. The barrels still smell like pickled peppers every spring when I open them back up but the smell goes away pretty quick.

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    Thanks for all your replies. I inquired about the barrels and the seller said he is close with the supplier of his barrels. The barrels originally held tomatoes, however, the tomatoes are packed in a plastic liner so the tomatoes don't actually touch the barrel interior. I'll go check out the barrels as soon as I shovel the 20" of snow from around my trailer.
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    I might want to check to see why a liner was used...it's possible the barrel was not made for direct food contact, or it held something else in an earlier life?
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    did you ever get to check these out?

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