I made a mattatuck madness homemade sap ro setup. I'm looking for recommendations on a pump for it. I know the instructions use an aquatech 8800 but was looking for other options.
I made a mattatuck madness homemade sap ro setup. I'm looking for recommendations on a pump for it. I know the instructions use an aquatech 8800 but was looking for other options.
I used the aquatech. It's never let me down.
Options to make it cheaper or options for more flow.
2017 25 taps on buckets got me hooked 1 gallon of sweet
2018 51 taps on 3/16 tubing/ DIY oil tank evaporator 8.5gallons finished
2019 60 taps 7 gallons finished ended season short
2020 New 2x4 divided pan ready to get away from the headache that is steam table pans
2021 off year due to pandemic and projects
2022 back at it
Aquatec pump worked great for me too!
I did series piping and I feel like that gives better flow. Pulling out more water faster makes sap less % in one pass. I did multiple passes or recirc it.
I made through roughly 900 gallons of sap on my homemade r8o last season, but it was to slow for my liking. I bought 400gpd filters, but the 8850 aquatech really wasn't a great match for what I wanted to do. So out with the old and in with the new for 2019. Keeping my 400s (x3) and pairing them with a procon pump. Watching eBay I got a 100gph pump for 45 and a matching Emerson motor for 65. The pump will move about 100 gph at 140 psi. Pretty close to the specs on my 400 gpd ro filters. Gonna start a thread here soon about optimal setup. Mark
Last edited by Mark B; 01-21-2019 at 10:36 PM.
2017- Started small-made 7 gallons. Long days & few nights on a 1x2 and turkey fryer.
2018- Bought a 2x4 and built a small scale RO. 21 gallons.
2019- moved up to 100 gph procon for my home built RO. Built a steamhood. About 220 taps and 21 gallons again.
2020- 140 procon on the R0. Added a new mainline at my in laws. 330 taps for 24 gallons, sold excess sap.
-Scott
2017: Found a new addiction/hobby!: 6 taps, Coleman stove/turkey fryer, graduated to barrel arch, 1.75 gal
2018: Increased efficiency - 22 taps on 3/16 gravity vac, 10 buckets, homemade extended barrel arch w/ firebrick, warming pan, 20X30 baffled pan, small home-built RO, 11.5 gal
2019: Same as above now with AUF, home-built float pan, gas sap pump, fewer fire brick but more insulation, maybe a few more taps if the wife lets me. ;-)
I built a custom RO using an aquatec 8800 and 400 gpd membrane. Worked pretty well, seemed a bit slow at times, but it saved me a ton of boiling time and fuel! Planning to add a 2nd 400 gpd membrane for next season.
https://youtu.be/s106bSrcfno
https://www.sugartree.run/p/sugaring-diy.html
D. Roseum
www.roseummaple.com
~100 taps on 3/16 custom temp controlled vacuum; shurflo vacuum #2; custom nat gas evap with auto-drawoff and tank level gas shut-off controller; homemade RO #1; homemade RO #2; SL SS filter press
2021: 27.1 gallons
2022: 35 gallons
2014-2017 - 3 taps - open fire boil
2018 - 33 taps on 3/16 20" Hg, 3 buckets, barrel evaporator, RO Bucket
2019 - 41 taps on 3/16" 20" Hg, 4 buckets, barrel evaporator, RO-Bucket Kit (3x400 gpd)
In general those aquatech pumps are too small for the 400 gpd membranes. You probably don't get enough flow and the membranes foul pretty quickly. The second major problem is the aquatech pumps don't really generate enough pressure to maximize the membrane you're using. The ProCon's develop more than twice the pressure. You need the higher pressure to overcome the cold sap temperature, the higher sugar content which means higher osmotic pressure you have to overcome. The pressure limitations on the pump make doing more than 5% on an aquatech setup nearly impossible.
Leader 1/2 pint - Kawasaki Mule - Smoky Lake Filter Bottler
24 GPH RO, 2 1/2 x 40 NF3 (NF270), 140 GPH (Brass with no relief valve ) ProCon pump
2013 - 44 taps - 16 gallons syrup, 2014 - 109 taps - 26 gallons syrup
2015 - 71 taps - 13.5 gallons syrup, 2016 - 125 taps - 24.25 gallons syrup
2017 - 129 taps - 17.5 gallons syrup, 2018 - 128 taps- 18 gallons syrup
2019 -130 taps - 18.5 gallons syrup, 2020 ~125 taps-19.75 gallons syrup