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    Default Can anyone identify maker of tank

    I have a chance to purchase a 250 milk tank but there is no valve. I wanted to get an idea of the availability and the price of a valve before I go any further. But first I will need the tank identified. I thought it was a Dari Kool.

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    I own a Mueller that looks like that. For a valve, I get mine from https://www.brewershardware.com/Sanitary-Fittings/
    I identify the threads and get an adapter to convert to Tri Clover type. Then you can get a good 1.5" SS valve for $47.00 and convert from there to any fitting or pipe you want. They seem to have the best prices I've found and stock all of the sizes.
    Trying to go with a milk trank valve will run you 2-4x that, maybe more.
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    Threads for the valve are a fairly standard milk sanitary thread. Any place that sells parts for milk equipment should have it. Just need to know the diameter of the pipe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maple flats View Post
    I own a Mueller that looks like that. For a valve, I get mine from https://www.brewershardware.com/Sanitary-Fittings/
    I identify the threads and get an adapter to convert to Tri Clover type. Then you can get a good 1.5" SS valve for $47.00 and convert from there to any fitting or pipe you want. They seem to have the best prices I've found and stock all of the sizes.
    Trying to go with a milk trank valve will run you 2-4x that, maybe more.
    Maple Flats, where would I go to find an adapter? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
    First year making syrup
    Lean to off the barn for sugaring
    Lapierre 2x8 Classic
    Lapierre canner
    Wes Fab 7" short bank press
    600 gallon Sunset bulk tank
    I own Stihl's
    Chocolate lab

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    Hamby Dairy or I think even Brewer's Hrdware might have them. Give them a call. If not, try Hamby Dairy.
    Dave Klish about 1320 taps in '15, down to about 700 in '16, up to 1000 for 2019?
    2012 Mahindra 36 HP 4x4/ loader/cab/heat/AC:-)
    added a gooseneck equipment trailer and F350 to tow it to haul more sap
    3x8 raised flue evaporator
    250 GPH converted to electric, RO by Ray Gingerich
    6.32 KW solar system, 1.48KW is battery backed up, all net metered
    http://s1041.photobucket.com/albums/...anssugarhouse/
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    The fitting appears to be an acme fitting (about 2" at a guess, compared to the beer can in the photo). The nut should be available on line or at any milking equipment store.
    I like to go directly to a more user friendly system like tri-clamp.https://www.gvc.net/p/971/tri-clamp-...hread-adapters. Then you can do about whatever you need to do.
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    Looks like they cut the outer skin off the tank.

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    At a tank size of about 250 gal I'd think the valve will be a 1.5". I have 6 tanks that are milk type tanks, up to 1000 gal , with the smallest being 200 gal and all are 1.5" valves. I think as the size of the tank gets towards 800 or 1000 gal some may be 1.5" and others 2", as they get even bigger the valves get larger. I have 2 Surge tanks, one a vacuum tank, one not vacuum, they both have 1.5" valves. I have seen others in the 1000 gal range with 2" valves, but never one that is just 250 gal.
    I think the larger tanks get a bigger size so the larger volume of milk can be pumped out faster.
    While the outside measurement on the threads will not measure 1.5" it very likely will measure less than 2" diameter. Once you get the adapter and a nut to attach it, then convert to Tri Clover type you can use anybodies valve. All 1.5" tri Clover are interchangeable. Be sure to order a seal for each joint and I like to get a few spares. With Tri Clover you will find many size combinations from small flange to 1.5" and large to 1.5", just be sure to stay all the same. That way all will use the same size seal (gasket) and clamp.
    Dave Klish about 1320 taps in '15, down to about 700 in '16, up to 1000 for 2019?
    2012 Mahindra 36 HP 4x4/ loader/cab/heat/AC:-)
    added a gooseneck equipment trailer and F350 to tow it to haul more sap
    3x8 raised flue evaporator
    250 GPH converted to electric, RO by Ray Gingerich
    6.32 KW solar system, 1.48KW is battery backed up, all net metered
    http://s1041.photobucket.com/albums/...anssugarhouse/
    website: www.cnymaple.com

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    At a tank size of about 250 gal I'd think the valve will be a 1.5". I have 6 tanks that are milk type tanks, up to 1000 gal , with the smallest being 200 gal and all are 1.5" valves. I think as the size of the tank gets towards 800 or 1000 gal some may be 1.5" and others 2", as they get even bigger the valves get larger. I have 2 Surge tanks, one a vacuum tank, one not vacuum, they both have 1.5" valves. I have seen others in the 1000 gal range with 2" valves, but never one that is just 250 gal.
    I think the larger tanks get a bigger size so the larger volume of milk can be pumped out faster.
    While the outside measurement on the threads will not measure 1.5" it very likely will measure less than 2" diameter. Once you get the adapter and a nut to attach it, then convert to Tri Clover type you can use anybodies valve. All 1.5" tri Clover are interchangeable. Be sure to order a seal for each joint and I like to get a few spares. With Tri Clover you will find many size combinations from small flange to 1.5" and large to 1.5", just be sure to stay all the same. That way all will use the same size seal (gasket) and clamp.
    Dave Klish about 1320 taps in '15, down to about 700 in '16, up to 1000 for 2019?
    2012 Mahindra 36 HP 4x4/ loader/cab/heat/AC:-)
    added a gooseneck equipment trailer and F350 to tow it to haul more sap
    3x8 raised flue evaporator
    250 GPH converted to electric, RO by Ray Gingerich
    6.32 KW solar system, 1.48KW is battery backed up, all net metered
    http://s1041.photobucket.com/albums/...anssugarhouse/
    website: www.cnymaple.com

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    Fernco coupling < $10
    3,100 taps
    60 cfm flood
    HC2
    5 by 14 oil

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