You will like them, especially if you get tapped early and then have a long season. If it is a short season you may not see the difference. That being said, remember the taps are good for 2-3 years.
You will like them, especially if you get tapped early and then have a long season. If it is a short season you may not see the difference. That being said, remember the taps are good for 2-3 years.
Dave Klish, I recently ordered a 2x6 wood fired evaporator from A&A Sheet Metal which I will be converting to oil fired
Now have solar, 2x6 finish pan, 5 bank 7x7 filter press, large water jacketed bottler, and tankless water heater.
Recently bought another Gingerich RO, this one was a 125, but a second membrane was added thus is a 250, like I had.
After running a 2x3, a 2x6, 3x8 tapping from 79 taps up to 1320 all woodfired, now I'm going to a 2x6 oil fired and a 200-425 taps.
I'm definitely going to give them a try as well.
Smoky Lake 2x6 fuel-oil fired, raised flue, hoods, SSR, concentric exhaust
Home-built auto draw off
Home-built RO - double XLE 4040, PLC controlled
8x10 Sugar Shed
200 taps on tubing with Shurflo vacuum with solar
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Heres a video I found with Tom Kaufman talking about the zap bac spout.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...ZMtwRCfpm6YvzI
I think these will be my spouts next year
Jake
smoky lake 2x6 drop flue SSR on homemade arch
235 taps on 2 gast 1550s and lappiere releasers
24x12 sugar house
2019 Kubota L2501 work horse
has anyone seen these zap bac spouts in 3/16? I looked around...had no luck
2017 140 taps 30x8 12x16 shack 28.5 gal
2018 158 taps 30x8 12x16 shack with 8x8 kitchen 44 gal
2019 223 taps 30x8 12x16 shack with 8x8 kitchen 36 gal
2020 226 taps 30x8 12x16 shack with 8x8 kitchen 250 waterloo ro 63 gal
2021 230 taps 30x8 12x16 shack with 8x8 kitchen 250 waterloo ro 37 gal
2022 230 taps 30x8 12x16 shack with 8x8 kitchen 250 waterloo ro 55 gal
2023 235 taps 30x8 12x16 waterloo ro 50 gal
2024 54gal
Tom told me they were going to be made, but not sure when. If I remember I’ll ask him tomorrow. I use the 5/16 -3/16 t’s with the antimicrobial spouts. Works well for me.
I was at Toms today and he has the 3/16 spouts in stock. Guess I got the first ones.
I think I'll continue to use the 5/16. I like the idea of a 5/16 drop even on my 3/16 laterals, thus all of my drops are 5/16, the only thing that changes is if the drop has a 5/16 T or a 3/16 x 5/16 T.
Dave Klish, I recently ordered a 2x6 wood fired evaporator from A&A Sheet Metal which I will be converting to oil fired
Now have solar, 2x6 finish pan, 5 bank 7x7 filter press, large water jacketed bottler, and tankless water heater.
Recently bought another Gingerich RO, this one was a 125, but a second membrane was added thus is a 250, like I had.
After running a 2x3, a 2x6, 3x8 tapping from 79 taps up to 1320 all woodfired, now I'm going to a 2x6 oil fired and a 200-425 taps.
Here is what I can tell you about the history of Zap-Bac spouts. We started doing research with a company in Mass. in 2009 ( they are the company that makes the anti-microbial additive- silver). Cornell University's Maple Program has been doing research since 2010 on the spouts and is still doing research today the most recent on 3/16 gravity systems. If you look at the 2018 research that Steve Childs did he compared all of his experiments to a 2 year old system that he had made no changes to. Briefly here are the results: the 2 year old with no changes 19.2 gallons per tap, Leader stubby with check valve adapter 20.8 gallons per tap, new spout and drop 26.4 gallons per tap, New Zap Bac spout and drop 28.7 gallons per tap,all brand new tubing, spouts, drops etc. 35.4 gallons per tap. Cornell has a lot more data on the Zap-Bac spouts on 5/16 gravity systems and years of vacuum system data. You also have to keep in mind that these spouts were designed for multi season use. I suggest 3 years. I hope this helps explains a few things. There will be more research done durning the 2019 season.
mountainvan, did he say where or when we can get them. this would be the year to do it as it is drop replacement year.
2017 140 taps 30x8 12x16 shack 28.5 gal
2018 158 taps 30x8 12x16 shack with 8x8 kitchen 44 gal
2019 223 taps 30x8 12x16 shack with 8x8 kitchen 36 gal
2020 226 taps 30x8 12x16 shack with 8x8 kitchen 250 waterloo ro 63 gal
2021 230 taps 30x8 12x16 shack with 8x8 kitchen 250 waterloo ro 37 gal
2022 230 taps 30x8 12x16 shack with 8x8 kitchen 250 waterloo ro 55 gal
2023 235 taps 30x8 12x16 waterloo ro 50 gal
2024 54gal
I'll be getting 2-400 more for 2019, but all in 5/16. While about 2/3 of my taps are in 3/16 I like the idea that a 5/16 drop pulls less back into the tree on the 5/16 thus all of my drops are in 5/16, even if it is a zap bac spout. All of my taps are on vacuum.
I just vacuum dry after the season.
Dave Klish, I recently ordered a 2x6 wood fired evaporator from A&A Sheet Metal which I will be converting to oil fired
Now have solar, 2x6 finish pan, 5 bank 7x7 filter press, large water jacketed bottler, and tankless water heater.
Recently bought another Gingerich RO, this one was a 125, but a second membrane was added thus is a 250, like I had.
After running a 2x3, a 2x6, 3x8 tapping from 79 taps up to 1320 all woodfired, now I'm going to a 2x6 oil fired and a 200-425 taps.
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