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    My son in law does the firing and uses a timer on his cell phone. He fires every five minutes. I watch the sap levels in the pans and the draw off thermometer. We both keep an eye on the RO and I break down and repaper the filter press.
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    There are a few reasons to keep track of stack temps. one is for fuel savings and the other is for keeping the evap ripping. I would experiment and fire until the rig is ripping and then take note of the temp then I would figure out the max and minimums and take it from there.

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    I wanted a stack temp so when I got an autodraw I purchased the Great Lakes Guardian from Smokylake. What I noticed is that once you fire the temp will go down a little more and then rise. After it peaks for a while is will start to go down and that is when I fired. The max temp gradually increased through the boiling session until the evaporator was fully warmed up so you still had to watch. Firing temp was anywhere between 650 and 1000 depending on wood and how long I had been boiling.
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    Another thread going off topic because people aren’t answering the OP’s question but instead spending a lot of time telling him and others that they are doing it wrong. Read the OP’s question and provide answers that are what the questions ask. If you feel you are smarter than everyone else then start your own thread on the subject.
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    the timer that BAP posted is the same that we switched to this year after using the kitchen egg timer. Best money one of the guys ever spent.
    2014 125 taps 16 gallons
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    I use this one: https://www.thermoworks.com/Extra-Bi...EaApe3EALw_wcB
    Pricey but it works great. I used to use egg timers and other kitchen timers but they were never very good, if I stepped out to get more wood when the timer sounded I sometimes missed it. The one I link to has different volume settings, I keep it set to 1 under max, with that I can hear it from 50 +/- feet outside the sugarhouse, (over the sound of the high pressure blower). I have used this for about 5 seasons, love it. In use I set the time once and then start, when it sounds I push the stop button 2x and it starts again for the same length of time, then I add the wood and check the RO. This is also where I used to add defoamer, but that is now automatic as is the draw off.
    Dave Klish, I recently ordered a 2x6 wood fired evaporator from A&A Sheet Metal which I will be converting to oil fired
    Now have solar, 2x6 finish pan, 5 bank 7x7 filter press, large water jacketed bottler, and tankless water heater.
    Recently bought another Gingerich RO, this one was a 125, but a second membrane was added thus is a 250, like I had.
    After running a 2x3, a 2x6, 3x8 tapping from 79 taps up to 1320 all woodfired, now I'm going to a 2x6 oil fired and a 200-425 taps.

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    I just received an email, the timer I suggested is now 15% off http://campaign.thermoworks.com/2018...tewide-Sale-cm
    Dave Klish, I recently ordered a 2x6 wood fired evaporator from A&A Sheet Metal which I will be converting to oil fired
    Now have solar, 2x6 finish pan, 5 bank 7x7 filter press, large water jacketed bottler, and tankless water heater.
    Recently bought another Gingerich RO, this one was a 125, but a second membrane was added thus is a 250, like I had.
    After running a 2x3, a 2x6, 3x8 tapping from 79 taps up to 1320 all woodfired, now I'm going to a 2x6 oil fired and a 200-425 taps.

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