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    Quote Originally Posted by Haynes Forest Products View Post
    OK that is what were talking about BUT what is Windy Acres bypassing. If its an auto draw off I'm confused. Now if he is relying on the auto draw to open during big dumps but bypassing it to have a continuous flow is weird.
    This is how i do it. I run a continuous draw from the bypass valve. The autodraw is set to 2 deg over.
    The problem you have if you are putting a throttling valve on your auto draw is that if for some reason you get a large draw ( because now you are batch drawing) you run the risk of burnt pans because you cannot draw off fast enough. This is especially true if you are using it to create a continuous draw through the autodraw.
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    When i first put am auto draw on my pans, i was using wood for fuel. It was a lot high temp fluctuations when the valve opened to draw. Starting @ the temp i set it to and going 7 or 8 deg over. So i then set it up with a valve in line with the auto draw so it was more of a continuous draw. Problem is you get a big draw and you start making smoke in the pans because you have limited your draw speed. This lead me to putting in the bypass valve and using it for the continuous draw and the auto draw for "slugs" of syrup the continuous cant accommodate.

    Now, i no longer use wood. With natural gas burners the heat is consistant and the syrup flow is very predictable. BUT.. i still occasionally get the slug of syrup that opens the autodraw. No more smoke in the pans . I also have moved my temp probe from the factory location (front of final run) to just inside the pan at the draw off box.
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    Mallondome I also shave my head.................... I now understand your set up and why. With oil I have had to go to low fire and that slowed it down but in reality it sped up MY process. I also agree that what works for you is the best method. I get sidetracked to easily and one time when I was doing the trickle method before my auto drawoff I walked away and over flowed my tank and ran everything on the floor. Every time I put into place an automatic system I pass the responsibility farther down the line and it bites me in the butt.
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    yes, after my throttling valve, and before the auto draw, i hate a T, one side is the auto-draw, the other side has another valve, which i leave a small stream running out of
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    Screenshot_20180708-054003_Gallery.jpg it's not the best picture , I had to crop it out of another one
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    FB_IMG_1526339856800.jpg that's the picture it came from, and the rest of the crew!
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    So you use the auto draw as a safety valve. Got it and its not a WRONG way just a different way. Do you find that sugar sand and chips don't settle in the auto valve pipe and cause a clog. I had that issue when I had that style plumbing?
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    I've never had a problem, but I push everything out of my front pan with permeate every time I boil, I believe that helps alot, I only leave the other valve open a little more than a fast drip, I'm thinking I need to run a bigger stream, and maybe that will keep the front pan moving a little more to avoid the overtemp
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