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    I would agree with the patience as well. It has been so cold and with so much frost that we have not had anything close to a normal run yet this year. Unless we get a fast warmup I expect things to be fine. I also have tried retapping in the past with poor results, but both times it was an attempt to extend the season.

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    So I checked my taps this saturday, not much in the buckets in the past week but was actually surprised to collect about 8 gallons out of the 17 taps. But I did tap 5 new trees and tapped on the south side of the tree and even though it was like 29 degrees out 3 were flowing right after drilling even though the older taps were not flowing.
    Bryan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moser's Maple View Post
    Hey Brandon you don't want your season to go too long, cause then you'll run into another problem.....rattle snakes!!!!
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    Tim Perkins mentioned in this thread that there is research happening on the topic of re-drilling holes.
    I did a search here on the topic and landed on this thread.
    It started when I read in The Maple News from this season ("Betting on his buckets: N.H. producer taps early
    Sugarmaker plans on taphole rejuvenation on bucket taps") about a bucket operation that was "rejuvenating" taps for a longer season, but it did not specify what was meant by "rejuvenation".
    I know it is well established that there is little to nothing to gain from "reaming" tap holes, since the healing extends a good six inches above and below the hole.
    However, it does seem like drilling a 1.5" deep hole to maybe 2" at some point mid-season is an idea worth at least considering unless that has now been debunked as well.
    In my little brain, it seems like the thing most likely to stop this from being effective is if at 2" you're potentially getting into heartwood, but there could be other factors.
    If it does work, it seems like it could be game changing especially for a bucket operation who has a lot riding on best tapping timing.
    In the 4 years since this thread went dormant is there more data on the topic? By a research facility and/or an experiment by any sugarer here?
    Andy
    (P.S., I also wonder about drilling bigger mid-season, such as from 3/16" to 5/16" for tubing, or from 5/16" to 7/16" for buckets, although would be higher cost)

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    Very bad idea however you do it from a sustainability perspective.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PlnqFny5tpk
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrTimPerkins View Post
    Very bad idea however you do it from a sustainability perspective.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PlnqFny5tpk
    That's just what I was looking for, thanks!
    That closes it for me, no re-drilling or reaming here!
    Andy

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