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    Default The R O bucket

    Has anyone tried this yet, the R.O. Bucket RB-15, http://www.therobucket.com/index.htm?

    If so, are you satified, how was performance, is it worth the cost vs. A build yourself R.O.. Would you buy it again?
    New for 2016 Mason 2x4 XL with AUF blower. No more boiling in stainless steam table trays or pots for me.

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    I bought the rb15 kit which you assemble yourself and is a little less expensive. It has been great for me this season. I concentrate simultaneously to boiling so I dial it in at lower than max capacity so that it keeps up with my evaporator. Even with cold sap I get about 5 gal permeate per hour. I may add the low pressure shutoff next year so that I can concentrate sap overnight or while I’m at work.

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    I have the RM5M I have used it all season about 13 days. Yesterday with cold sap I got 4 1/2 gallons/hour at about 50/50.
    Then I preheated sap and then got 7.5g/h total conc and perm. I am in a shed with no heat but have cooktop to preheat and finish near.
    2020 same
    2019 RB10 26 taps
    2018 RO Bucket RB5 taps 20, leg tank in shed w/2 5/16
    2017 18 taps
    2016 20 taps
    2015 21 taps
    2014 30 2 gravity line, 2 hotel pan concrete arch 35 g leg tank
    2013 LP hook up in shack buckets 12 taps
    2 burner cook top 2012 finisher on a bbq tanks
    2011 rookie 2+ gal
    8 taps w/ milk jugs
    turkey cooker
    50-60 up back maybe

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    I bought the RB-15 this season and it has been great. I use it to draw from my outside sap tank and send the concentrate to my head tank that feeds my Mason 2x3 XL. I start the RO an hour or so before I fire the evaporator and then run them simultaneously. Removing half the water with the RO has greatly reduced my boil times and wood use. I would definitely buy it again.

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    Also, I added a pressure gage between the pump and filter, and flow meters with built in needle valves in the permeate and concentrate lines. I removed the small needle valve that came with the RO bucket and instead use the concentrate flow meter needle valve to dial in the balanced flow between permeate and concentrate. The needle valve on the permeate flow meter is left wide open. Flow meters with a suitable range for such low flow are hard to find, I ordered these from amazon:
    https://www.amazon.com/uxcell-Thread.../dp/B00EZ3T1GM

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    I bought the 10gal/hr unit this year and it has been great. Saves time on boiling and firewood used.
    100-110 buckets
    Leader 7.5" 3 Bank filter press (2023)
    RO Bucket RB10 (2017) upgraded to RB20 (2020)
    Homemade oil tank arch
    Homemade stainless pans
    12x16 Sugar Shack (new 2020)

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    Thank you for all the replies. I appreciate all the information and testimonials on this R.O. that I can get. Im considering the RB15 build it yourself kit. Would like to get 15 gph of concentrate with at least 50% water removal.
    What % of concentration are you getting up to, and is this with a single pass or how many passes?
    New for 2016 Mason 2x4 XL with AUF blower. No more boiling in stainless steam table trays or pots for me.

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    I think it’s rated at 10gph of concentrate at 50%. I don’t measure my sap or my concentrate so I’m not sure about that aspect.

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    They do not recommend more than 1 pass at 50%. It can clog membranes, i tried at first was slow.
    You may have to flush more permeate. I had a clogged membrane with no flow of permeate, I had to run several gallons of well water warmed up to free up sugars in membrane, this happened twice and is why I heat sap up and flush.
    I think doing this finally got back to normal, Carl was thinking failed membrane.
    I am going out now to start up a new run.
    2020 same
    2019 RB10 26 taps
    2018 RO Bucket RB5 taps 20, leg tank in shed w/2 5/16
    2017 18 taps
    2016 20 taps
    2015 21 taps
    2014 30 2 gravity line, 2 hotel pan concrete arch 35 g leg tank
    2013 LP hook up in shack buckets 12 taps
    2 burner cook top 2012 finisher on a bbq tanks
    2011 rookie 2+ gal
    8 taps w/ milk jugs
    turkey cooker
    50-60 up back maybe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jolly Acres Farm View Post
    Would like to get 15 gph of concentrate with at least 50% water removal.
    What % of concentration are you getting up to, and is this with a single pass or how many passes?
    I doubt you can get 15 gph of concentrate at 50% water removal with the RB-15. Today I was processing 1.4% sap to 8 gph of 2.8% concentrate with my RB-15. The sap was under 40F since it had a skim of ice on it in the tank when I started. It will process sap that is warmer than 40F at a higher rate, but not 15 gph of concentrate. To me, removing 50 percent of the water is a big savings in boil time and does not run the risk of fouling the membranes.

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