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    Russ,

    Brute makes both non-food grade and food-grade trash cans. The white ones are for food use. The bottoms should have HDPE, NSF or some printing designating the food-safe usage. Check their website- I'm sure they list which color cans can be used for food service. They make all sorts of colors but they all might not be food safe.

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    I have seen kitty litter pails used also. However, my all-time favorite was a photo a buddy of mine sent me years ago of a yard full of maples with Floor Refinisher pails on them! I couldn't believe it. These were on a major east/west route through N.Y., so thousands upon thousands of folks saw them being used.
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    An assortment of barrels, cage tanks & bulk tanks- with one operational for cooling/holding concentrate
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    I tried the most simple answer of No, but it was too short. No. The food grade buckets from HD are the cheapest I would use.
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    Omg use common sense!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    So I have two thoughts on this topic, first I believe it would be ok as long as the kitty litter was fresh scent. My second thought would be.... no wonder the FDA is all over the sugaring industry. Come on people use your head.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thad Blaisdell View Post
    So I have two thoughts on this topic, first I believe it would be ok as long as the kitty litter was fresh scent. My second thought would be.... no wonder the FDA is all over the sugaring industry. Come on people use your head.
    yep- this post topic just got put on an FDA slide presentations to supervisors supporting the need for more field inspections
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    If the number inside the recycle triangle on the bottom is 1, then the bucket is HDPE and there will be no recycled plastic used in the manufacture of it. However, the mold release agent used to help separate the plastic from the mold that made the bucket probably wasn't food grade. This is the main difference between NSF HDPE and ordinary HDPE. The mold release agent is an oil and while it would normally be washed quite easily from the plastic, it isn't certified safe for consumption. Use at your own risk.
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    Where did the thread go on the Roundup and stainless tank go?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dennisn418 View Post
    Anyone use, or think of using, the 50lb kitty litter pails to collect sap? Obviously they can be cleaned and bleached so I don't really see why they couldn't be used....other than the potential strange look from your neighbors....any thoughts or experiences on non conventional collection containers??? Regardless of how "clean" you can get it, the material it was made from is not suitable for food.
    I say go ahead and use them without cleaning them first. Give the syrup to all your Red Sox friends. HAHA

    Spud

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    Quote Originally Posted by spud View Post
    Give the syrup to all your Red Sox friends. HAHA

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    just because he asked a odd ? that most don`t like. keep it to the buckets..... im not a baseball fan, but i do live MA thanks bud
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