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    Default Tubing freezing off taps

    Just curious if any one else is having problems with tubing coming off taps. These 10 degree nights are pushing off taps. Just a pain in the can!

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    Yes, my leader check valve spouts are pushing the tubing off, dozens a day.
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    Yup, its happening on our stubbys. Also with the clear check valves the tubing comes right off the tap.
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    Yes. It seems to be a perpetual issue this season with the dramatic temp. variations. I have never seen it this bad. I had to hook up about 30 drops that came disconnected since the last time the sap ran....
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    It's nothing new here, we frequently have 0 degree temperatures until April. In fact it was -6 near here this morning. Two seasons ago it was -12 on April 4th, talk about some taps pushing out!

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    You guys need to change to a different brand of tubing for your drops. No has mentioned what they are using but I bet it's some type of semi rigid tubing like 30P. I use IPL pink stripe which is now CDL see through tubing. It stays on the taps and is soft and flexible. I haven't had a single drop fall off of a spout but a friend that is using 30P has to go out after every hard freeze and put dozens of them back on.
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    I've gotten push offs this season too, but only on CV2 taps that have new drops, with CDL tubing. The drop lines made last year with Leader tubing are staying put.

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    Well I'm glad I am not alone. I have a few different types of line in use on the drops due to switching them out regularly.. No 30p.

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    From what I can tell, it has nothing to do with brand of tubing. It is the year. I was in the woods last night at 8. Temp was 26. Sap was still running out of trees well. Nothing was coming into releasers. That is the problem. Trees are running well below freezing. Sap can't go anywhere because lines are frozen. Pressure in system makes lines come apart at weakest link. We actually had a connector blow apart on a 3/4" mainline because of this. Not only has it came apart at the spouts but we have also had 5/16" ts and connectors push apart this year.....have never seen this.
    Neil

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    I was sure its not the tubing either. I was thinking it might have been the spout I used this year but now I see other people are having trouble with different spouts. I guess I just get to spend extra time in my favorite spot....the woods! I also noticed one time it is the trees at the bottom of the hill and another it is only at the top of the hill. I can only assume different trees are running based on temp, sun, etc. Thanks Neil for the info.

    Craig

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