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    Default When to seek help

    When do you seek help for this. I have no problem judging someone by counting how many taps they could put in the trees in their yard.

    I think I have a problem
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    It's futile to resist....
    Mason 2x4 w/raised flue pan, 240 gal. sap tank, 80 Reds on 5/16 tubing and Lunchbox releaser/pump, 20 sugars on buckets

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    There is no help, you are addicted, just enjoy it. Just be glad it's legal and fun for the whole family.
    Dave Klish, I recently ordered a 2x6 wood fired evaporator from A&A Sheet Metal which I will be converting to oil fired
    Now have solar, 2x6 finish pan, 5 bank 7x7 filter press, large water jacketed bottler, and tankless water heater.
    Recently bought another Gingerich RO, this one was a 125, but a second membrane was added thus is a 250, like I had.
    After running a 2x3, a 2x6, 3x8 tapping from 79 taps up to 1320 all woodfired, now I'm going to a 2x6 oil fired and a 200-425 taps.

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    Greenthumb, I'm lucky to be able to keep my car out of the ditch these days. If I see a big juicy maple tree I can barely stay in my lane.
    ~ Karen ~

    2012 - 10 taps, 1 turkey fryer - 169.5L sap 4.2 L syrup
    2013 - 23 taps, 2 turkey fryers - 748.5 L sap 17.56 L syrup

    2014 - 22 taps, 509 L sap 12.5 L syrup
    2015 - 28 taps, 1093.75 L sap 25.1 L syrup
    2016 - 25 taps, 1223.5 L sap 28.25 L syrup
    2017 - 21 taps, 518.5 L sap 12.7 L syrup
    2018 - 28 taps, 2 turkey fryers & Denali 3 burner propane stove - 798L sap 16.9 L syrup
    2019 - 28 taps, 1409.5L sap 40.12L syrup

    Sugar, Norway, Manitoba, Silver and Freeman Maples



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    That's funny Karen !!
    2011- 35 taps, ,,,milk juggs and buckets-propane turkey fryer !!
    2012 -75 taps,,,,, 40 on tubing into buckets, and 35 buckets - 3nd hand Homemade arch, brutal.
    2013- Just over 115 taps and still adding more.
    2014, new SS flat pan and new arch built, guessing 75-100 taps this year.
    2015, 50 taps on Shurflo pump.
    2016- Getting a line across my creek this year.
    2017-took a year off, Jamaica was fun !
    2018- 45 trees tapped, keeping it fun !

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    Quote Originally Posted by maple flats View Post
    Just be glad it's legal.
    I would think that would make it more fun! Having to go deeper in to the woods, like a moonshiner, trying not to get caught and not let anyone find their still. We'd be trying to hide the buckets and steam.

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    For those who put too many taps in a tree I just wonder why, but beyond the amusement nothing. However over tapping does shed a bad light on maple producers, even if that tree with 12 buckets on it is being cut down after the season.
    Dave Klish, I recently ordered a 2x6 wood fired evaporator from A&A Sheet Metal which I will be converting to oil fired
    Now have solar, 2x6 finish pan, 5 bank 7x7 filter press, large water jacketed bottler, and tankless water heater.
    Recently bought another Gingerich RO, this one was a 125, but a second membrane was added thus is a 250, like I had.
    After running a 2x3, a 2x6, 3x8 tapping from 79 taps up to 1320 all woodfired, now I'm going to a 2x6 oil fired and a 200-425 taps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maple flats View Post
    For those who put too many taps in a tree I just wonder why, but beyond the amusement nothing. However over tapping does shed a bad light on maple producers, even if that tree with 12 buckets on it is being cut down after the season.
    Dave I completely agree! I was lambasted either on this site or the other one years ago for saying this very thing. I was told its nobodies business, etc.It was a thread about someone putting 10 or more taps in a yard tree that they planned to cut down. When I drive by a house that has 5-6 buckets on an old maple it ticks me off because it is indeed giving maple producers a bad name.
    1000 taps on vac down to 100+ buckets 99% sugars
    2x5 SL Hi-Output Raised Flue Corsair evaporator
    SL Short bank press with CDL diaphragm pump
    Leader Micro 1 RO for 2024
    Constantly changing
    2010:36 gal 2011:126 gal 2012:81 gal 2013:248 gal 2014: 329.5 gal 2015:305 gal 2016:316 gal 2017:258 gal 2018:147 gal 2019:91 gal 2020:30 gal 2021:30 gal 2023:50 gal Total since 2010: 2047.5 gal
    Tapping the same trees my great, great and great grandfathers tapped.

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    Not sure I agree with you about the bad name thing. 50% of those driving by will not even know what the buckets are for! 99% will not have a clue that overtapping a tree is harmful to it. The only ones upset by it will be a very small number of knowlegable maple producers.

    We run an annual maple festival that draws around 40,000 people. It is scary how little the general urban public knows about the natural world! I've had people argue with me that all that's in our sap buckets is water! One lady wanted to know if all these trees were maple (We're at the edge of a mixed hardwood / conifer forest!).
    2023 - 130 taps, 90L from 4,000L as of mid March
    2021 - 84 taps, 50L from 2100L
    2020 - 100 taps on buckets, 21L syrup from 2700L so far (FEB 26-Mar 13) and then the pandemic hit! End of our season!
    2019 - 62 taps on buckets, 95L syrop from 3215L sap
    2018 - 62 taps, collecting by hand, 90L syrop from 3200L sap
    2017 - Lapierre Waterloo Small mini pro with 40 taps
    2014 - 2016 40 taps making one or two batches on a 2x6 flat pan over an open arch as it would have been done in 1900

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    Then the next thing you see is Yahoo posting his operation on Youtube and he is tapping trees with sprinkler fittings and garden hose all running into a used oil barrel.

    Well I saw it on the interweb so it has to be true.

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