Leader Single Barb 3/16ths Fittings

[McKenney Maples]

I’ve been using leader fittings without issue this season, all my lines are tight. I had a couple pop apart last year but the breaks seem to coincide with deer tracks. Coincidence, I think not. Everyone else’s problems are making me think it’s only a matter of time for me.

[motowbrowne]

Yep, they pull apart on me too. Wish I'd known last year when I did my whole install that CDL fittings have 2 barbs. Another consideration is that I'm using 95% 30P in my woods. The rest is the green stuff from H20 innovations. Their tubing is softer and stretchier. It grips the fittings much better. Haven't had a single one pull apart on that line. Everywhere else it'll pop if you pull too hard.

[Z/MAN]

Count me in as having problems. I had problems putting the tubing up. I even tried not really pulling the lines tight and they still kept coming off. A lot of the tees actually deformed. Besides not holding with the one barb they seem to be made a lot thinner and flimsy. I won't use them again. The CDL seem to be a lot stronger.

[GotSap?]

I've also had lots of trouble with the 30P. Mostly with it slipping through the 2 handed tool, but also with some connections (single barb) pulling apart.

[sugarsand]

Sounds like I dodged the bullet on this one. We started out with D&G tubing and fittings, 0 problem. Then on a expansion we used CDL tubing with a mixture cdl and d&g fittings, this tubing was very similar to D&G but did have a few pull offs from the d&g fittings, a couple if I remember correctly. Cdl id may be slightly bigger on the inside. For this season also tried a roll of Lapierre with d&g fittings, no problems so far.

[wnybassman]

Count me in as having problems. I had problems putting the tubing up. I even tried not really pulling the lines tight and they still kept coming off. A lot of the tees actually deformed. Besides not holding with the one barb they seem to be made a lot thinner and flimsy. I won't use them again. The CDL seem to be a lot stronger.

I remember making and installing the original drops, and having to be absolutely sure everything was super straight before pressing together. If I was off just a little bit, one of the legs of the Tee would certainly buckle over, rendering the whole thing useless at that point. I used the plain jane Leader black spouts and they were just as finicky to install the tubing onto also. I used the CDL green spouts last year and they seemed much more rugged.

[buckeye gold]

wnybassman,

Ditto here. You better keep it straight or it would deform and once one pulled off you better toss it and install a new one. I noticed some of my semi-rigid leader tubing seemed to have memory after the tee was pulled off. I started cutting about and inch out at every pull off, which in itself created problems. On two lines I had to replace a section of tubing between two tees, because I had to cut more than I could stretch out. I am thinking about next fall buying CDL and replacing all tees. A hassle I would rather not have on one year old tubing.

[Cody]

Had 2000' of leader 2 years ago.This year replaced it with H20 line.Tried to tighten it up a few weeks ago and it started pulling off the CDL tee.The stuff is junk in my opinion.

[maple flats]

I've had zero pull offs on my 3/16, but all of my 3/16 is either DSD or D&G on both the fittings and the tubing. All of my 5/16 older tubing is Leader 30P, but this year I tried D&G for both sizes. I find the D&G softer and harder to attach to fittings but it does not pull apart. However, on the 3/16 on any length between trees of maybe 25' or more on my flatter areas before the hill side starts downhill do have a little sag, on ones after the slope gets steeper there is no sag enough to make it so sap is climbing any to get to the next tree.
My first year on 3/16 (2016) I did have a couple of pull offs but I decided I had pulled it too fight. I then pulled it slightly less tight and no more pull offs unless a squirrel chew at the fitting caused it.
My 3/16 laterals are now rather tight but not banjo tight. I've found it doesn't need to be as tight as 5/16 needs.

[Greensprings sugar]

Count me in one this one. FRUSTRATED! Never again, switched whole woods over to cdl.