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    Default Looking for sap transport tank

    Anyone in the northern half of the state got a 300 to 500 gallon poly tansport tank they wanna sell? 200gals at a time is getting costly and time consuming?
    2008---35 buckets--3 gal syrup
    2015---150 on 3/16 gravity&50 Buckets
    2016---350+/- on 3/16
    2017---700+ on 3/16
    2018---700+ on 3/16 added 500gal milk tank

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    Sorry, I don't have a tank for you, but I am curious. What kind of vehicle do you have for hauling those amounts of sap? My truck needs to be put down and I'll be in the market for a new one this summer.
    Woodville Maples
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    Around 300 taps on tubing, 25+ on buckets if I put them out
    Mix of natural and mechanical vac, S3 Controller from Mountain Maple
    2x6 W.F. Mason with Phaneuf pans
    Deer Run 250 RO
    Ford F350
    6+ hives of bees (if they make it through the winters)
    Keeping the day job until I can start living the dream.

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    If you get a bigger tank, make sure your truck or trailer can safely handle it.Many use a 275 gal IBC container, that is over 2200 pounds, if completely full as long as it's no too heavy for the vehicle is not too bad, but at 80-90% full it can steer the truck to places you'd rather not go unless the truck is big enough.
    Dave Klish, I recently ordered a 2x6 wood fired evaporator from A&A Sheet Metal which I will be converting to oil fired
    Now have solar, 2x6 finish pan, 5 bank 7x7 filter press, large water jacketed bottler, and tankless water heater.
    Recently bought another Gingerich RO, this one was a 125, but a second membrane was added thus is a 250, like I had.
    After running a 2x3, a 2x6, 3x8 tapping from 79 taps up to 1320 all woodfired, now I'm going to a 2x6 oil fired and a 200-425 taps.

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    I use 2 totes with the cam-locs hooked together so they fill together or close the valve and only fill one. Big tanks without dividers can cause a surging problem. having smaller tanks in tandem makes loading them easy and you have less surge. I also have a manifold that fills them from the top thru bulkhead fittings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haynes Forest Products View Post
    I use 2 totes with the cam-locs hooked together so they fill together or close the valve and only fill one. Big tanks without dividers can cause a surging problem. having smaller tanks in tandem makes loading them easy and you have less surge. I also have a manifold that fills them from the top thru bulkhead fittings.
    Do the two totes face each other valve to valve or do they face the same way? I'm curious how you unload the sap.
    Woodville Maples
    www.woodvillemaples.com
    www.facebook.com/woodvillemaples
    Around 300 taps on tubing, 25+ on buckets if I put them out
    Mix of natural and mechanical vac, S3 Controller from Mountain Maple
    2x6 W.F. Mason with Phaneuf pans
    Deer Run 250 RO
    Ford F350
    6+ hives of bees (if they make it through the winters)
    Keeping the day job until I can start living the dream.

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    I have a 225 on my f250 super duty right now plus a gang box full of tools and it goes fine. I figure if I take the gang box off then 300 gals will be fine. The sugarhouse I sell to has to haul every gallon from 4200 taps and they do it all with one f350 superduty and a 420 gal tank without any problems
    2008---35 buckets--3 gal syrup
    2015---150 on 3/16 gravity&50 Buckets
    2016---350+/- on 3/16
    2017---700+ on 3/16
    2018---700+ on 3/16 added 500gal milk tank

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haynes Forest Products View Post
    I use 2 totes with the cam-locs hooked together so they fill together or close the valve and only fill one. Big tanks without dividers can cause a surging problem. having smaller tanks in tandem makes loading them easy and you have less surge. I also have a manifold that fills them from the top thru bulkhead fittings.
    I was thinking of doing something like this with two ibc totes on a trailer when I get ready to do my expansion in a year or two. But trailers are such a pain especially in mud and slimy spring time roads.
    2008---35 buckets--3 gal syrup
    2015---150 on 3/16 gravity&50 Buckets
    2016---350+/- on 3/16
    2017---700+ on 3/16
    2018---700+ on 3/16 added 500gal milk tank

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    I have the totes so the valves are on the passenger side. I have a transfer pump that will suck from the totes at my woods into the trailer totes. I can then switch 2 valves and suck out of the trailer totes into my bulk tanks. I can also use the pump for transferring from any tank to any tank. I can fill both my tanks or only one I can also suck out of just one into someone else's tank. Plus I can suck from one into the other. I know it sounds complicated but when you get in the heat of the battle and tanks are running over and you need room in tanks that are full of whatever you need options.

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    I haul 3 totes on a gooseneck trailer with an F350, 2 for sap and the third carries about 100 gal of permeate to rinse the woods tank. After I pump out the woods tank, I turn the pump around, hook to the permeate tote, attach a reducer I have that reduces the flow down to a 5/16 tube. That does a nice job if cleaned soon after emptying so everything is still wet. My pump is a Honda WX15.
    If you have enough truck, this method works fine. On my last haul of the season last year, I drained the third tank and filled that with sap too. Sap had not quit running but the sugar had dropped to 1.0, I called it quits.
    Dave Klish, I recently ordered a 2x6 wood fired evaporator from A&A Sheet Metal which I will be converting to oil fired
    Now have solar, 2x6 finish pan, 5 bank 7x7 filter press, large water jacketed bottler, and tankless water heater.
    Recently bought another Gingerich RO, this one was a 125, but a second membrane was added thus is a 250, like I had.
    After running a 2x3, a 2x6, 3x8 tapping from 79 taps up to 1320 all woodfired, now I'm going to a 2x6 oil fired and a 200-425 taps.

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    Im thinking more that a trailer is the way to go. It also frees my truck bed during the season.
    2008---35 buckets--3 gal syrup
    2015---150 on 3/16 gravity&50 Buckets
    2016---350+/- on 3/16
    2017---700+ on 3/16
    2018---700+ on 3/16 added 500gal milk tank

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