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    Default Which Shurflo Pump ??

    I am setting up a 12v Shurflo vacuum system - there is a lot of talk on here about the Shurflo 4088 and some about the 2088. Looks like the 4088 has 3.0 GPM and the 2088 has 3.5 GPM. Does the larger GPM of the 2088 mean it will pull more suction?

    Is one of these pumps better? Or the 4048 (4.0 GPM) is double the price. Is is worth it that much more?

    Thanks,
    Jay

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    I am running about 110 taps in a 4008 Shurflo pump pulling 21-24” of vacuum depending on how the sap is running. This is my 4th year using it.
    Sugaring for 45+ years
    New Sugarhouse 14'x32'
    New to Me Algier 2'x8' wood fired evaporator
    225 Sugar Maples Currently,(105 on 3/16" and 110 on Shurflo 4008 vacuum, 10 gravity), (16,000 before being disabled)
    1947 Farmall H and Wagon with gathering tank
    2012 Kubota with forks to move wood around

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    I run the 4048's, and have 3 of them. very strong vacuum, and great for pulling sap and pushing sap if you plumb them as a transfer pump too. Below is a link to my build of my set-ups.

    http://www.littlecreekmaplefarm.com/?p=3721

    They are more expensive, but my first pump is still pulling strong when there is no vac leaks in the lines. I pull 15-17i nches with dry lines and over 20" when the sap is running and I recirc the sap thought the pump.
    Bill
    2016-2018, 50 taps on hobby vacuum, boiling outdoors on the Mason 2x3.
    49 taps 2015, mix of hobby vacuum and gravity, boiling outdoors on the Mason 2x3.
    42+4 taps 2014, still on a WF Mason 2x3 Hobby Evaporator
    43 taps 2013 on a WF Mason 2x3 Hobby Evaporator
    10 taps 2012

    Follow along on our sugaring adventures at our website:
    http://littlecreekmaplefarm.com

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    I've got three 2088s. I'm happy with them.
    Second generation sap rat.

    Started taking over in 2012
    2012-2016: 300 buckets 120 on gravity tubing. Waterloo 2x10 wood fired. Averaged 105 gallons per season.
    2017: hoping for 300 on 3/16 with Shurflo and 50 buckets. New used 4x14 Algier wood fired cooker. 180 gallons of syrup

    2018: 300 on vacuum 2 buckets, finally got a splitter!

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    I think the 4088 sucks more vacuum. The amount of lift is the number you should look at rather than the amount of throughput. IIRC, the 20XX series only has 3 diaphragms and the 40XX series has 4, which means a smoother, harder and more consistent suck which enables a higher lift.

    I'm still experimenting with smaller and cheaper dual diaphragm pumps because I have small numbers of maples isolated at long distances from each other. Last year I sucked a 45 tap line through a $25 Favson pump. It didn't suck as well as a Shurflo 4088, but it impressed me. I will probably be using some of those when I move to my new sugarbush.
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    2019 -- 44 Red Maples - My home and sugarbush are for sale.
    2018 -- 48 Red Maples, 7 gallons
    2017 -- 84 Red Maples, 1 Sugar Maple, and 1 Silver Maple , 13 gallons
    2016 -- 55 Red Maples, 8 gallons
    2015 -- 15 Red Maples, 6 Birches - 3+ gallons maple syrup
    An awning over my deck is my sugar shack.
    An electrified kitchen sink and an electrified steam table pan are my evaporators.

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    I run three 2088 pumps on up to 150 taps and they work very well.

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    How long of a distance are you running these Shurflo's? We have a new mainline to install this year on some real nice roadside maples. Good slope along the road but I don't think its quite enough for 3/16". I've walked it with GPS and still need to plot it up but was thinking of trying a Shurflo. The mainline is about 1400' and will have 175-200 taps on it. Too much for a Shurflo pump? I think I have a spare one for my camper and could use the deep cell Optima battery that sits on the charger all winter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mainebackswoodssyrup View Post
    The mainline is about 1400' and will have 175-200 taps on it. Too much for a Shurflo pump? I think I have a spare one for my camper and could use the deep cell Optima battery that sits on the charger all winter.
    I ran 210 on a 4008 last year with about 1000 feet of 1 inch mainline. performed brilliantly pulling 20 inches. I have two shurflo pumps, my second is a 4048 and it eats through a good battery in about 12 hour. I prefer the 4008 because it will run up to 20 hours on the same battery.
    2016- 50 buckets. Made 4 gallons
    2017- 100 buckets, 50 taps on 3/4 mainline and 3/16th tubing + shurflo vacuum. Made 30 gallons.
    2018- 1000 taps on 3/16 + vacuum, 60 buckets - made 378 gallons of syrup.
    2019- 1713 taps on 3/16 + vacuum, NO buckets. Made 500 gallons.

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    Good to know, thanks for the info. I was looking at Mountain Maples controller setup as well and he recommended the 4048. You running 1- 12v deep cell battery? I think we'll try it. If it doesn't work well for some reason, we have another mainline with 130 taps we could put it on. But that will require some line upgrades and leak repairs.

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    Yes I use deep cell batteries. The 4048 is a great pump. I just like the 4008 more.
    2016- 50 buckets. Made 4 gallons
    2017- 100 buckets, 50 taps on 3/4 mainline and 3/16th tubing + shurflo vacuum. Made 30 gallons.
    2018- 1000 taps on 3/16 + vacuum, 60 buckets - made 378 gallons of syrup.
    2019- 1713 taps on 3/16 + vacuum, NO buckets. Made 500 gallons.

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