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    Default Patrick Phaneuf 2x4

    Hey All,

    I'm reaching out to anyone who has a Phaneuf 2x4 or 2x6 evaporator. Mine is a 2x4 drop flue and last year I got a steam hood and pre-heater from him.

    Yesterday we ran all day using good dry hardwood, cut small and fed the fire as per everyone's recommendations. We were only getting approx 20gpm and I expected more, especially with the pre-heater.

    I am not using AOF/AUF and my stack length is more than double the arch. My stack temps make me nervous as they will climb to over 1200-1300 degrees.

    I was just wondering what anyone else who had an evaporator from Patrick was getting. I was hoping for around 30gpm, maybe slightly higher.

    The only thing I am considering is adding more brick on the ramp to force the fire under the flues more and I feel much of the fire is going straight to the back of the arch and up the chimney, but I never got any insight from him on how to brick it beyond the basics.

    Any help would be appreciated.

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    I have a 2x6 with no hood and AUF, I average 33 Imperial gallons (39.6 US) an hour. not sure what type of wood i put in last night but i hit 39 Imperial 47(US) for about 10 minutes.

    I fire every 10-12 minutes (small firebox)

    I have a flow meter installed on my intake to very flow rates.
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    2012 Year 1 - 6 taps
    2013 Year 2 - 85 taps
    2014 Year 3 - 150 taps - 22 gallons
    2015 Year 4 200 taps - 15 Gallons
    2016 Year 5 200 taps - 23 gallons
    2017 Year 6 200 Buckets, 100 on 3/16 gravity)
    2018 Year 7 200 Buckets , 175 on 3/16 with shurflo 4008

    Patrick Phaneuf 2x6 raised flue
    Polaris 6x6, 1990 Alpine Ski-doo
    Sugar shack - 12X24 with 8x14 wood shed

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    Thanks for the reply.

    I know the AUF improves things, but so would my pre-heater at some level. I guess I need to add air and see what happens.

    Any idea what your stack temps are?

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    I have a magnet stack thermo that normally reads 650-750


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    _________________________________
    2012 Year 1 - 6 taps
    2013 Year 2 - 85 taps
    2014 Year 3 - 150 taps - 22 gallons
    2015 Year 4 200 taps - 15 Gallons
    2016 Year 5 200 taps - 23 gallons
    2017 Year 6 200 Buckets, 100 on 3/16 gravity)
    2018 Year 7 200 Buckets , 175 on 3/16 with shurflo 4008

    Patrick Phaneuf 2x6 raised flue
    Polaris 6x6, 1990 Alpine Ski-doo
    Sugar shack - 12X24 with 8x14 wood shed

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    I used to have one of his 2' x 4' drop flues with a very similar setup as yours and got only 22 gph with it. I don't think I could have gotten anymore out of it if I had tried.
    Gary
    16' X 24' Sugarhouse
    2' X 6' Leader Inferno Arch with Revolution Raised-Flue Pans, Smoky Lake preheater and hood
    Deer Run Maple gas-powered 250 RO
    WesFab 7" filter press
    Kubota 1100 RTV with tracks and 125 gallon tank for transporting sap
    800 taps on gravity and vacuum
    Very supportive wife who is the best coworker
    http://mapletrader.com/community/sho...ing-Sugarhouse

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    Okay. Thanks for the reply. Good to know there isn’t much more I can do.

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    I'm very similar to what decker wrote. 2x6 drop flue with AUF, no hood. I do fire a bit more often....7 or 8 mins.
    Miscoe Hill Maple
    2015 PJ Evaporator (Phaneuf) 2x6 drop flue
    2x6 WF Mason Arch
    ~250 taps on a Guzzler & Shurflo
    12x20 WF Mason Filter/Canner
    12x16 Sugarhouse

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