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  1. #121
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    Well you might have always had a dream of having 200000 taps.(some folks get off on building massive things)...if sugaring has been your lifes work,,you have the oppertunity to build an opperation where that many taps come into the sugarhouse without trucking,,and you have a customer lined up to buy you syrup......and with strong interest from people with money to get into the sugaring game you might think that once built you could sell the opperation....i can think of many reasons
    Salisbury Sugarworks,,Parker Rowe, and friends
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    no buckets in 2010
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    Quote Originally Posted by maple flats View Post
    recipe for bankruptcy.
    The sugar maker(s) who went out on a very small limb with debt of 250K to start sugar operations when bulk was 2.80 and now bulk is 2.10 LB. You still have those payments to make.
    PM me for fire sale of equipment please before you give back to bank.
    Thank You
    Flatlander
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    125 on Sap Suckers
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    400 gravity adding more
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    I’m with you flat but from what I can gather the people putting up those huge places don’t mind the loss and use it for a tax write off. We (the smaller producer) would have to sell everything we own to cover the loss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flat Lander Sugaring View Post
    The sugar maker(s) who went out on a very small limb with debt of 250K to start sugar operations when bulk was 2.80 and now bulk is 2.10 LB. You still have those payments to make.
    PM me for fire sale of equipment please before you give back to bank.
    Thank You
    Flatlander
    I will sell you all my maple equipment for 250k. The fire sale is on. Remember I notified you first.
    30x8 Leader revolution, wood fired blower, steamaway/hood. 903 taps all but 54 on pipeline and 3 vacuum systems. Hauling sap this year with a 99 F350 7.3 diesel dump and of course back up is the Honda 450 and trailer.

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    With the low bulk prices you might see a boost in production to try and make up for the lower price. If some don't go out of business the price is going much lower.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maple maniac65 View Post
    I will sell you all my maple equipment for 250k. The fire sale is on. Remember I notified you first.
    I think this thread is getting kinda off topic and I admit it is humorous. I have noticed that I do think a few people are Hanging it up this year and selling out. Is it above average I can't say but there has been a fair amount of newer stuff out there for sale where it appears people are raising the white flag . I doubt it will have any effect on the bulk price but it is a trend perhaps?
    Nate Hutchins
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    looking for a good 600 expandable to 1200 H2O or CDL for around 4K, 2.5X8 vortec with revolution pans and steam away for 3.5K.
    will pay cash.

    I did not say I would pay 250K, i was saying the people who went in 250K plus are going to be hurting, looking for fire sale
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    125 on Sap Suckers
    Close to 475 High Vac
    400 gravity adding more
    leader 2x6
    home made preheater
    hoods
    1 7D749 for AOF
    New FLS Tsunami Arch
    4 membrane TR Industries RO 2HP 3 phase 601GPH 250 PSI
    PID Display for Arch Temp.
    Chumlee of the trader

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flat Lander Sugaring View Post
    looking for a good 600 expandable to 1200 H2O or CDL for around 4K, 2.5X8 vortec with revolution pans and steam away for 3.5K.
    will pay cash.

    I did not say I would pay 250K, i was saying the people who went in 250K plus are going to be hurting, looking for fire sale
    If you find two of those RO’s please call me. Thad has my number if you need it.
    William
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    About 750 taps on High Vac.
    2.5 x 8 Intens-O-Fire
    Airtech 3 hp LR Pump
    Springtech Elite 500 RO
    14 x 24 Timber Frame SugarHouse
    16 x 22 Sap Shed w/ 1500 gal. + 700 gal. tanks
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    https://www.themaplenews.com/story/s...last-year/197/

    Check this out.

    “I don’t have a barrel in the house,” said Peter Roth of Roth Sugar Bush in Cadott, Wisc. on Monday. Roth is one of the biggest syrup buyers in the state and was trying to dispel the notion that there is a glut of carryover syrup on the market from last season.

    “The supply of syrup in the Midwest is non-existent,” Roth said. “I don’t see the surplus that everybody talks about.”

    Roth told The Maple News that he came up short on filling some contracts last fall because he could not source enough syrup.

    “I couldn’t fill all of my contracts from last year,” he said on Monday. “I could’ve sold more.”

    “I challenge anyone to put together a trailerload of syrup,” he said. “It cant be done. It just isn’t out there.”



    Uh.. anyone know what they're paying out there? I know sugarmakers who would definitely move their syrup out there if they could get a better price for it. Or the sugarmakers who can't get in with bulk buyers around here. I just don't get it. You would think if he can't fill contracts he would be able to pay a bit better and get the syrup to fill contracts. Or maybe just unwilling to pay a higher rate to get those contracts because the margins aren't there. I don't know.

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