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    Spiles and buckets ordered! I'm off work for 6 days and I have some metal artwork to do. I picked through my scrap pile and sourced enough material including a 55 gal drum to build an evaporator.

    As for the pan... What size should I build it for the drum? I wanted to build a divided pan with a draw off valve and a warming pan. I can make it out of mild or stainless. I've read up on both and decided to go mild steel this year do to $$$$. If I can pull of a small success this year, the CFO (wife) will be good with a full home built arch.

    How much sap am I going to need to run a continuous pan at 20"x20"? Will 8 taps supply what I need?

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    8 should be enough once the sap really starts running, but early on you might need to save sap and keep it cold to add to another day or 2 before you have enough. You want enough to boil at least 3 hours on the first boil, or draw off what has been boiled and save until another boil.
    Some have used mild steel and they seem to be usable, but between seasons, rust becomes a major issue.
    Dave Klish, I recently bought a 2x6 wood fired evaporator from A&A Sheet Metal which I will be converting to oil fired
    Now have solar, 2x6 finish pan, 5 bank 7x7 filter press, large water jacketed bottler, and tankless water heater.
    Recently bought another Gingerich RO, this one was a 125, but a second membrane was added thus is a 250, like I had.
    After running a 2x3, a 2x6, 3x8 tapping from 79 taps up to 1320 all woodfired, now I'm going to a 2x6 oil fired and a 200-425 taps.

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    Ok.. did an about face on the mild steel. Scored a good price on some 22ga stainless!! Going to build a 20x20x6, 3 channel pan and put a warming pan on back. How high should the dividers be? I purchased 2 stainless steel valves and few other small items.. time to put it all together

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    Quote Originally Posted by HondoLane View Post
    We have a propane stove and stainless vent hood to the outside. Will I have issues with sticky walls? This is concern my wife has.
    I finish inside with propane stove, stainless steel hood vented outside and have not had issues with sticky walls. Not, when my filter slipped and spilled onto the counter, that was a different sticky mess. 😱
    ~Janet

    2019 - 6th year sugarin'. 2nd year using propane. 13 taps. Just over 3/4 gal syrup. Light in color and flavor.
    Intent to build a new barrel evaporator with my son this summer. Still don't weld. We'll see how it goes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HondoLane View Post
    We have a propane stove and stainless vent hood to the outside. Will I have issues with sticky walls? This is concern my wife has.
    There is NO SUGAR in steam. You could have enough moisture running down the walls to strip the wallpaper off, but they will not be sticky.

    Your fingers will be sticky, and any splashes onto your counter or stove top will be sticky, but not the walls.
    Don't turn your back on the boiling pot though- or the whole kitchen will quickly be sticky. Boiling syrup knows EXACTLY when to rise up and jump out of the pot.
    Big_Eddy
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    20+ years on a 2x3 block arch,
    Homemade 20"x64" drop flue since 2011

    Build a Block Arch
    Build a Flat Pan
    Build a Flue Pan
    Sweetening the Pans
    Build a Bending Brake
    Using a Hydrotherm
    How much Sap to Sweeten?

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    Almost there! Finishing up my 55 gallon drum evaporator. Wasn't going to insulate it. Now I'm thinking I will. What, at a minimum, should I do? I built a grate for the bottom and I was just going to throw sand in the bottom. Now I was looking at ceramic blanket. Do I need to cover the ceramic blanket with brick? Need some ideas!!

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    My 55 gallon setup has 2" ceramic blanket then 1" firebricks on bottom and 1/2 way up sides( bricks protect ceramic from physical damage)
    This is my second year using 55 gallon barrel evaporator and at first I didn't have it insulated and you couldn't get close enough to tend to foam or check boil/ sap depth ( I would at least do ceramic/ brick on bottom, also helps direct all heat up to pan.

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    Good point on insulation... I am going to snag some fire brick tomorrow. I figured since I'm this deep into it.. may as well whip together a finisher/bottler while I am at it... When I finish up in the next couple of days.. I will post up some photos..

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    Aaaannnnnd... we off!

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    Success!! I think. Made some beautiful looking syrup. Nailed it on the hydrometer. Took about 14 gallons to make about 14 oz of finished product. It has a noticeable vanilla flavor. Hope that is ok.
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