yeah i went and demo`d a woodbine rapido loco 60 a few months back and talked with chris and his guys, there is no bs, pumped up cord pre hr rates, or smoke n mirriors with them, ive run a handful of other processors the rates others advertise are slightly inflated in normal, not prefect wood . hopefully the end of this year or start of 2019, i will be the proud owner of a 60 model. i just laugh abit when people ask `what do you do for work` and my reply is `im self employed`.... they usually say `it must be hard out on your own`!!! my reply is ` well everybody has to stay warm`..... boy the looks i get.