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    This is the potable water pump and very pricey at $1,675. https://www.waterpumpsdirect.com/Pac...mp/p98016.html The pump head only is about $1,200. And there is another Pacer model at $2,000+. I’ve been searching too and can’t find anything cheaper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CTSap4Maple View Post
    This is the potable water pump and very pricey at $1,675. https://www.waterpumpsdirect.com/Pac...mp/p98016.html The pump head only is about $1,200. And there is another Pacer model at $2,000+. I’ve been searching too and can’t find anything cheaper.
    Lol, if I bought that, I would also have to factor in the $60,000 for the divorce lawyer.

    I am starting to lean towards the Shurflo pumps, but I still have to learn if they can be used outdoors uncovered, and if they could push the sap about 200’, uphill about 10’ high

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swingpure View Post
    Lol, if I bought that, I would also have to factor in the $60,000 for the divorce lawyer.

    I am starting to lean towards the Shurflo pumps, but I still have to learn if they can be used outdoors uncovered, and if they could push the sap about 200’, uphill about 10’ high
    It will do it easily although a little less than rated capacity. I pump 3 times as far and 5 times higher with a 5gpm pump on 1/2" line. The RV grade pumps commonly used for maple sap pumps are not waterproof but there are marine grade pumps that are available which are rated as waterproof. For example, Shurflo makes a model 4148 which is a waterproof version of their 4048 model. Cost is a little higher. I have ordered some different ones to test.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biz View Post
    It will do it easily although a little less than rated capacity. I pump 3 times as far and 5 times higher with a 5gpm pump on 1/2" line. The RV grade pumps commonly used for maple sap pumps are not waterproof but there are marine grade pumps that are available which are rated as waterproof. For example, Shurflo makes a model 4148 which is a waterproof version of their 4048 model. Cost is a little higher. I have ordered some different ones to test.

    Dave

    Thank you very much, that was very helpful. I also found a slightly less expensive, less powerful Marine Shurflo : Aqua-King II Water Pump 3GPM model 4138.

    I think I will either get the 4148 or the 4138. I will feel confident that it is meant for moving fresh water and that it will stand up being outside.

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    Does the Shurflo (4138) male fittings, fit a garden/rv hose fittings, or do you need an adapter like this to join them? https://www.amazon.ca/Anderson-Metal...s%2C167&sr=8-5

    Thanks

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    Last edited by Swingpure; 10-25-2021 at 10:13 PM.

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    The 4138 pumps have a MNPT fitting, same as the 4008/4048 series so yes you need an adaptor for a garden hose. The Amazon part looks correct. I use a garden hose rated for potable or drinking water, and only use it for sap transfers. Check the specs.

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    Thanks, I will be using RV hose, meant for drinking water. As deals come up, I may actually buy the hose and fittings before the pump.

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    Still waiting for my contact to get me a good deal on the Shurflow 4138. I was thinking today on how I would connect it to my ATV and I remembered that I had a quick connect at the back of my ATV. I had used it for connecting a battery tender to it when I used to store it in an unheated building. I wondered if it could be used as a power out and from what I have read and heard, it can be. I purchased two 10’ quick disconnect cables that I can use to interface between the pump and my ATV for three of my collection barrels and between a battery and the pump for the fourth collection barrel.

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    I run my 12 volt bilge pump for transferring sap off my ATV with a plug in connector and it works fine.
    2x3 Patrick Phaneuf Divided Pan
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    121 taps total
    Sugar Shack in future
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    I am still waiting for my pump and we will see what I get at Christmas. If I don’t get the Shurflo 4038 I was looking for, I might instead go for the Seaflo 12V DC 5.5GPM 60PSI 55 Series Diaphragm Water Pressure Pump. It is less expensive and almost twice as fast.

    I am going to get an in-line switch for my quick connect cable from my ATV to the pump. This will allow me to turn on and off the pump while holding the end of the hose and filling the 5 gallon pails in my ATV trailer.

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    2022 - 5 pan block arch - 109 taps, 73 on 3/16 lines, 36 on drops into 5 gallon pails.
    930 gallons boiled, 109 L (28.8 gals) of delicious syrup made.
    DYI Vacuum Filter
    2023 - 170 taps, mostly on lines, 1153 gallons boiled, 130 L (34.34 gals) of delicious syrup made, on a 2x4 divided pan and base stack, 8” pipe, on a block arch that boiled at a rate of 13 gallons per hour.
    2024 - made 48 L, December to March, primarily over two fire bowls.

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