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    I understand not wanting to make your wife and daughter uncomfortable. I am a pilot, so I know what you mean. I remember my wife's first flight with me. She had just flown on a commercial flight, so it was quite a step down to a Cessna. I can imagine the work that went into laying out your lines. You have a lot to be thankful for this Thanksgiving.
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    I'm looking for some advise... I'll be seeing the rest of my smoke stack this week and am wondering how to safety install it without renting equipment.

    The stack needs to be twice the length of the evaporator so 38 feet-ish. At the top of the roof jack I've got 24 feet, how does a person go about putting another 14 feet of 18" stack on without risking life and limb??? I can screw the section together on the ground and bring the whole thing up but once I'm on the roof how do you set something in place that's so tall and top heavy?
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    I understand not wanting to rent equipment to install your stack, but renting a towable aerial lift would probably run only about $200 for the amount of time you will need it and it would be better than you or someone else getting hurt. That would allow you install it in sections rather than all in one piece which will make it easier to handle. Plus it will make it easier to install your supporting cables or whatever you are using to keep it from being blown over in the wind. Better to be safe than sorry.
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    If you have forced air you do not need to go with the 2 foot rule as stack length will affect your draw. I would see what others have done with larger evaporators

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    38' is a lot of chimney or smoke stack pipe! My thinking is that with the 24' you have to the roof jack, another section or two would be more than enough and likely suck the glove off your hand when you get it fired up... Maybe wrestle an assembled 8' long section up there, drop it on and see how that works.
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    John Allin

    14x18 Hemlock Timber Frame Sugar House 2009
    Leader 2x6 w/Patriot Raised Flue Pan 2009
    Leader Steam Hood 2014 - Clear Filter Press 2015
    Leader Revolution Pan and SS Pre-Heater 2016
    CDL Hobby RO & Air Tech L25 Hi Vac Pump 2019
    06' Gator HPX to collect wood & sap
    14' Ski-Doo Tundra for winter work in the woods
    Great Family 3 grown kids+spouses and 7 grand kids who like the woods
    7th Gen Born in Canada - Raised in Chardon Ohio - Maple Capital of the World..<grin>.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnallin View Post
    38' is a lot of chimney or smoke stack pipe! My thinking is that with the 24' you have to the roof jack, another section or two would be more than enough and likely suck the glove off your hand when you get it fired up... Maybe wrestle an assembled 8' long section up there, drop it on and see how that works.
    I thought it would be enough as well, the gentleman that had the rig prior to me had that much stack on it and it was based on Leader's recommendations. I'm tempted to try it with less... The covers are showing up tomorrow so that's the moment of truth, I may try it to see how much suck I can get.
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    The standard rule for stack length on a wood fired rig is 2x the evaporator length, but that is for naturally aspirated. I'd suggest you just go about 4' above the roof and at least 2' higher than anything within 10', since you have blowers to create the air movement, even if that is under the 2x figure.
    Dave Klish, I recently ordered a 2x6 wood fired evaporator from A&A Sheet Metal which I will be converting to oil fired
    Now have solar, 2x6 finish pan, 5 bank 7x7 filter press, large water jacketed bottler, and tankless water heater.
    Recently bought another Gingerich RO, this one was a 125, but a second membrane was added thus is a 250, like I had.
    After running a 2x3, a 2x6, 3x8 tapping from 79 taps up to 1320 all woodfired, now I'm going to a 2x6 oil fired and a 200-425 taps.

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    Thanks for the thoughts fellow traders! It would make sense that I wouldn't need the height due to the arch being forced air.
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    Well I muscled the smoke stack into place... It was a bit sketchy but it's up, functional, secured and definitely way above the peak. Just waiting for the last steam stack cover and roof work will be done!IMG_1919.jpg
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    Anthony & Rebecca Renken
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    2018=4000 taps (goal) 3000 taps (actual)
    2019=7000 taps (goal)
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    We haven't posted in a while but we're making waves in the community and received a request to do an interview with our local new station. Here's the link!
    http://www.wsaw.com/search?searchKey...rthwoods+Maple
    Maple Man 85
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    2018=4000 taps (goal) 3000 taps (actual)
    2019=7000 taps (goal)
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