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    Paleo to Jane's gang is eating how the cave man ate, or as close to it as possible. The native American's are too modern in their view I guess, putting hot rocks in a wooden trough to boil tree sap, what will humans think of next, most likely the head lines on the Bedrock News Sci-Fi Section, probably what Fred and Barney talked about as they peddled their car to the stone quarry! Lol!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 220 maple View Post
    The native American's are too modern in their view I guess, putting hot rocks in a wooden trough to boil tree sap, what will humans think of next, !

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    Don't talk too much like this.....some will use this to justify the safety and use of GMO's and Roundup.
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    I think a note from Dr Perkins with the factual info to her would solve a lot of this. She responded quickly to my contact to her through her website. She just needs education and I don't have the science knowledge Dr Perkins has.
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    Just remember too, GMO's extend far beyond anything associated with Roundup. It is amazing how many believe that GMO's simply means plants created to resist the effects of Roundup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markcasper View Post
    Did anyone catch the part about each grade having a slightly "different" sugar content? What...........? many twisted statements in her article.
    I noticed that as well. Seems like lots of misleading information in the article.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrTimPerkins View Post
    Huge number of technical inaccuracies in the article. Maple syrup has only a small amount of glucose and fructose (a couple of % at most), and is predominantly sucrose. To correct all the problems would require an article about as long as the original.
    so when should we expect your article?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flat Lander Sugaring View Post
    so when should we expect your article?
    Never. There has already been ample writtten on the subject if only the author took a little time to educate herself before writing such nonsense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrTimPerkins View Post
    Never. There has already been ample writtten on the subject if only the author took a little time to educate herself before writing such nonsense.
    I and think a little education from you to her would solve the issue as you are a PhD and would prob be well received and put an end to it.
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    Well doc, its sad to me that you dont want to take a little time to educate a missguided vegan with your knowledge. Who knows how many folks take her word as gospel...educating folks about the bennifits an facts regarding maple helps us all in these times of gross overproduction...like many have stated befor,,,marketing is what is needed in the industry.....you sir have that special knowledge and ability to intelagently convey your specilalized knowledge......
    Lets all do our best to grow the market,,,
    What is the downside?
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    I have done this sort of thing hundreds of times. Most of the time there is no response. Occasionally you get a "thanks" and no change to the story. Very rarely there is a correction. If this particular author wanted to write a good story, she'd have done at least a little homework. If she showed any interest in learning, I'd be happy to help. However I have no interest in spending a few hours writing corrections to that terrible article. It would be a complete waste of time. Been there many times.
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