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    Default Work cut out for us

    http://janeshealthykitchen.com/maple-syrup-paleo/

    Whats everyones thoughts on this article?

    Found a poster about this at a natural foods store........
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    I thought the article was generally well written and researched until I got to that part about sapling syrup, then the author lost credibility in my mind at least. I don't see this article as having any great impact. Followers of paleo diets who have read the article and then decide to stop buying maple might be what, 10 people, tops?........The bigger issue is the mis-information being spread about sapling syrup and its alleged production. Does Dr Tim have any insight on any actual production?
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    Thanks Mark,
    Looks like an article where someone has done only a portion of their research. We all need to get on this and point out the mis- statements while being careful not to create a shouting match.

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    Huge number of technical inaccuracies in the article. Maple syrup has only a small amount of glucose and fructose (a couple of % at most), and is predominantly sucrose. To correct all the problems would require an article about as long as the original.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrTimPerkins View Post
    Huge number of technical inaccuracies in the article. Maple syrup has only a small amount of glucose and fructose (a couple of % at most), and is predominantly sucrose. To correct all the problems would require an article about as long as the original.
    Thanks Dr. Tim, I was thinking that was Factually inaccurate Glucose wise because I have some friends that are Diabetic and can have sweets made with Maple Sugar because it doesn't effect them as much as Cane sugar.
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    I will let Dr Tim address her response which is listed below:

    Hi Brandon,

    Thanks for your message. My understanding is that 'sucrose' is a pure sugar consisting of half glucose and half fructose. If that is true, since both of those are sugars, then maple syrup would be almost all sugar. Neither glucose nor fructose are a boon to metabolic health. Your thoughts? Warmest regards and thanks again,

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    Did anyone catch the part about each grade having a slightly "different" sugar content? What...........? many twisted statements in her article.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WESTVIRGINIAMAPLER View Post
    I will let Dr Tim address her response which is listed below:

    Hi Brandon,

    Thanks for your message. My understanding is that 'sucrose' is a pure sugar consisting of half glucose and half fructose. If that is true, since both of those are sugars, then maple syrup would be almost all sugar. Neither glucose nor fructose are a boon to metabolic health. Your thoughts? Warmest regards and thanks again,

    Jane
    Nope. Sucrose is a "disaccharide" which is essentially two monosaccharides (glucose and fructose) bonded together. The fact that maple syrup is primarily sucrose does not imply that it is half glucose and half sucrose as when the two monosaccharides are bonded as sucrose, they are a different compound and are a more "complex" sugar.

    It seems as though Jane does not recognize the difference between a monosaccharide and a disaccharide...
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    It seems as though Miss Jane is also ignorant that the body must maintain a certain glucose level to function.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WESTVIRGINIAMAPLER View Post
    My understanding is that 'sucrose' is a pure sugar consisting of half glucose and half fructose.
    Wrong (in a long list of wrongs). Using that reasoning, humans can breathe water since it is half hydrogen and half oxygen.
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