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    Default New Sugar Shack

    I have some trusses left over from a job last summer. They are 16' mono trusses.(shed roof) I am planning to build a 16 x 20 sugar shack. I have 2 questions. If I put my evaporator towards the high side will it work to vent out the front top. I was planning to use steel for the walls and roof, or will I get to much condensation.
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    I've got a steel roof. If I had to do it over, I'd insulate it with Styrofoam. I have trusses and insulating it now would be a pain. Even with a free standing hood I get rain inside when the conditions are right.
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    If you don't have a steam hood, you will want to put wood under the metal. If you don't, it will rain in your sugarhouse.
    Sugaring for 45+ years
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    Make sure that high opening doesn't face into the prevailing wind.

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    I did a steel roof, but used plywood first. I get zero condensation.
    Noel Good
    1998 to 2009: 15 taps on buckets, scavenged fire pit and pans
    2010: New 2x4 SS flat pan w/preheater
    2015: New to me Lapierre 18x60 raised flue, new shack, new everything!! 59 taps 23.75 gallons
    2016: 85 taps 19 gallons
    2017: Purchased 2.5 acres and tubed half with 3/16. 145 taps total 49.25 gallons
    2018: 200 taps (162 on 3/16ths 38 on buckets) New NextGen RO 63 gallons
    2019: 210 taps 73.5 gallons
    2023: 210 taps 89.75 gallons
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    This is very interesting, If I need to put plywood down first I might as well shingle the roof. I probably have enough left over shingles to do the whole roof.

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    Quote Originally Posted by djblech View Post
    This is very interesting, If I need to put plywood down first I might as well shingle the roof. I probably have enough left over shingles to do the whole roof.
    Yeah but with metal you won't have to worry about reshingling it EVER again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by djblech View Post
    This is very interesting, If I need to put plywood down first I might as well shingle the roof. I probably have enough left over shingles to do the whole roof.
    When those embers start flying out of the chimney you'll be glad steel is there, I know I am.

    My shack is not all that big, and the plywood under the steel was a $200 added expense to the overall project. Well worth it IMO.
    Noel Good
    1998 to 2009: 15 taps on buckets, scavenged fire pit and pans
    2010: New 2x4 SS flat pan w/preheater
    2015: New to me Lapierre 18x60 raised flue, new shack, new everything!! 59 taps 23.75 gallons
    2016: 85 taps 19 gallons
    2017: Purchased 2.5 acres and tubed half with 3/16. 145 taps total 49.25 gallons
    2018: 200 taps (162 on 3/16ths 38 on buckets) New NextGen RO 63 gallons
    2019: 210 taps 73.5 gallons
    2023: 210 taps 89.75 gallons
    www.wnybass.com

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    I'm not sure what it was called but we put an insulation that was sandwhiched between to layers of white plastic. It was only about 1 inch thick and they use it for cattle barns for condensation. It worked real well and was not very expensive and comes in rolls about 6 foot wide I think.

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    We put the metal right on to the rafters. Even on the steamiest of days it didn't rain in our 16*20. Our cupola is 8 ft long.

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