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    Default Taste of RO..ed syrup??

    Do they drastically change the taste of your syrup.. your syrup will spend considerably less time on the evaporator.
    2010 - 28 taps, homemade brick arch
    2011 - 421 taps, 2' x 6' homemade evaporator
    2012 - 276 taps
    2013 - 385 taps, new 2' x 6'
    2014 - 600 taps, new 7" short bank filter press

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    Proctor has done a blind taste test and most could not tell the difference.
    William
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    I personally think in long run you make better quality syrup with a RO because it allows the sap to be processed at several times faster rate than without. This is very evident with very low sugar sap and when the temps are high and the sap is going to go bad fast.
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    Professional taste testers can not distinguish RO'd syrup from non RO'd syrup for concentrates up to 24% or so, the jury is still out concerning higher concentrations now that RO's are out there that can even concentrate up to 45% sugar.
    Dave Klish, I recently ordered a 2x6 wood fired evaporator from A&A Sheet Metal which I will be converting to oil fired
    Now have solar, 2x6 finish pan, 5 bank 7x7 filter press, large water jacketed bottler, and tankless water heater.
    Recently bought another Gingerich RO, this one was a 125, but a second membrane was added thus is a 250, like I had.
    After running a 2x3, a 2x6, 3x8 tapping from 79 taps up to 1320 all woodfired, now I'm going to a 2x6 oil fired and a 200-425 taps.

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    Many contest have been won with syrup made from ROed sap. I have been using my RO for 12 seasons and get many compliments on how good my syrup tastes. I concentrate from 12% to 18% with no compromise in flavor.
    Russ

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    I went to an RO about 5 years ago and noticed no difference in quality, taste and colour of my syrup. No complaints at all from my customers. Only complaint is from my propane salesmen!
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    This was my first year with an RO and I made better tasting, lighter grade syrup then I've ever made before. Highest I concentrated was a little over 8%. Found I had a harder time filtering it though.
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    Hi bricklayer... I am renfrew, Ontario..just curious what kind of ro you used this year and how you liked it?
    2010 - 28 taps, homemade brick arch
    2011 - 421 taps, 2' x 6' homemade evaporator
    2012 - 276 taps
    2013 - 385 taps, new 2' x 6'
    2014 - 600 taps, new 7" short bank filter press

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    Quote Originally Posted by butler View Post
    Hi bricklayer... I am renfrew, Ontario..just curious what kind of ro you used this year and how you liked it?
    I repurposed a commercial 4 post reverse osmosis unit that was used for water into a single post 4x40 RO for maple. And used a MES membrane. Only thing I really re used from the commercial RO was the multistage stainless pump and the Frame it's all bolted to. The plumbing and electric control I had to redo. Worked great. I was able to concentrate up to 8% if I really pushed it. But I stayed around 6% on 1 pass. It will do around 75-100 gph. I'm really not sure how the best way to calculate gph rating on an RO. Especially when recirc is always wide open. But I just go by the permeate + concentrate I'm getting out of it. Was usually at .80 gpm of permeate and 0.5-0.75 gpm of concentrate. Depended on the temp of the sap.
    600 taps on vacuum
    Lapierre mechanical Releaser
    CDL electric releaser
    2.5 x 10 CDL Venturi ( new for the 2024 season )
    Home made modulating auto draw off
    Homemade RO 2 x 4" membranes
    CDL 16 x 16 bottler
    Wesfab 7" filter press
    Delaval 73 vacuum pumps

    12 hives of bees

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    Nice....the commercial ro"s are very expensive
    2010 - 28 taps, homemade brick arch
    2011 - 421 taps, 2' x 6' homemade evaporator
    2012 - 276 taps
    2013 - 385 taps, new 2' x 6'
    2014 - 600 taps, new 7" short bank filter press

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