Just seems somewhat strange to me that religious folks aren't up in arms trying to protect what they believe to be god's creation.
Just seems somewhat strange to me that religious folks aren't up in arms trying to protect what they believe to be god's creation.
Randy
Toad Hill Maple Farm
http://ToadHillMaple.com/
3650 Taps on Vacuum for 2010 & still expanding
56'x64' Timberframe Sugarhouse - New for 2011
3x10 Leader Vortex w/ Max Flue Pan & SteamAway
1000 gph Leader Springtech RO
777 Acres in the Adirondack Mountains
Mark
Where we made syrup long before the trendies made it popular, now its just another commodity.
John Deere 4000, 830, and 420 crawler
1400 taps, 600 gph CDL RO, 4x12 wood-fired Leader, forced air and preheater. 400 gallon Sap-O-Matic vacuum gathering tank, PTO powered. 2500 gallon X truck tank, 17 bulk tanks.
No cage tanks allowed on this farm!
>Just seems somewhat strange to me that religious folks aren't up in arms trying to protect what they believe to be god's creation.
I think the principle is that a) we are God's highest creation, given dominion over the earth and sea, so ipso fatso, NOTHING we do to the earth we're dominating is offensive in god's eyes.
What God thinks of this no one can know. Oddly, the fact that as soon as we STOP mucking up a place, it tries to repair itself, is not indicative of what god thinks.
Also, God needs money.
2024 - New Maine resident, 12X12 sugar shack under construction
2019 - New 12X12 boiling pavilion
2018 - New Mason 2X3 Hobby XL and homemade RO
You're generalizing a couple of the Christians in this thread to all "religious folks". Many in this thread may have deeply held religious beliefs, but don't feel the need to bring them into this discussion. At any rate, there actually are many Christian organizations that are working hard to fight for the environment, and against climate change. They put it just like you do - it's their sacred obligation to do so, and it's going against God's will to desecrate the Earth for our own enrichment.
But I am not in their camp. The fact is that religion has always been both a salve and a cudgel; people seem to find in it whatever they need, sometimes for the good, sometimes for the bad.
There's also those who would claim that what we're doing is all part of God's plan. Now I don't know about you, but that seems mighty presumptuous (I don't know the mind of God, do you?) Okay, so in the end, that just leaves us, and what we do with this earth. Leave God and what he might or might not "want" us to do out of it.
Okay, now that it's just us - can we agree to try to leave this world the best we can for our kids and grandkids? Isn't that motivation enough? Because I think it's safe to say that we're not living up to the best we can do right now. The impact on sugar maples may be myopic, but it's as good a place to start as any.
Cheers,
Gabe
2016: Homemade arch from old wood stove; 2 steam tray pans; 6 taps; 1.1 gal
2017: Same setup. 15 taps; 4.5 gal
2018: Same setup. Limited time. 12 taps and short season; 2.2 gal
2019: Very limited time. 7 taps and a short season; 1.8 gals
2020: New Mason 2x3 XL halfway through season; 9 taps 2 gals
2021: Same 2x3, 18 taps, 4.5 gals
2022: 23 taps, 5.9 gals
2023: 23 taps. Added AUF, 13.2 gals
2024: 17 taps, 5.3 gals
All on buckets
2024 - New Maine resident, 12X12 sugar shack under construction
2019 - New 12X12 boiling pavilion
2018 - New Mason 2X3 Hobby XL and homemade RO
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Scm, you have been gone for awhile. You will never be able to convince many of the posters on this thread, they have already demonstrated that they do not believe. You can have hardcore facts and evidence and they don't get it. They are SHEEPLE!!, that will follow the herd until its too late. They will be, the first ones on the FEMA bus.
The main reason they think they have control of the climate is because of their belief in themselves, they do not believe in God. They do not believe in the Bible, or what God's Word has to say. If you read the Bible, many people did not believe that Jesus was God when he was hanging on the cross for our sins. They taunted him, spit on him, mocked him and told him to come down from the cross if he truly was the Son of God. These people too, didn't get it.
Mark
Where we made syrup long before the trendies made it popular, now its just another commodity.
John Deere 4000, 830, and 420 crawler
1400 taps, 600 gph CDL RO, 4x12 wood-fired Leader, forced air and preheater. 400 gallon Sap-O-Matic vacuum gathering tank, PTO powered. 2500 gallon X truck tank, 17 bulk tanks.
No cage tanks allowed on this farm!
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Last edited by Scm; 04-11-2018 at 08:16 AM.
Mark
Where we made syrup long before the trendies made it popular, now its just another commodity.
John Deere 4000, 830, and 420 crawler
1400 taps, 600 gph CDL RO, 4x12 wood-fired Leader, forced air and preheater. 400 gallon Sap-O-Matic vacuum gathering tank, PTO powered. 2500 gallon X truck tank, 17 bulk tanks.
No cage tanks allowed on this farm!
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Last edited by Scm; 04-11-2018 at 08:16 AM.