Another Troubling Climate Article

[markcasper]

Perhaps you can skip the long and drawn out preliminaries and enlighten us all by telling us all exactly where you're driving this particular version of the MapleTrader Titanic?

He, HE,he, you are funny Dr. Tim! Thanks for enlightening my day. I seriously cracked up....all good.

[markcasper]

I don't believe the Bible explicitly states that a "day" is a 24-hr period. There has been considerable debate among Biblical scholars whether this passage should be interpreted chronologically, or topically. If the latter, the concept of time is immaterial. Popes have even weighed in that literal interpretations are not entirely possible because of translation issues from ancient writings in which the meanings of words/phrases were not always how they are understood today.

"In six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the seas, and all that is in them" (Exodus 20:11). Genesis 1 and 2 are historical narratives. I understand the content literally, not figuratively or poetically. Thus, the "days" of Genesis 1 are days - periods of time that have "evening" and "morning". There is nothing in the language of the Bible's creation account to indicate that the days were longer than 24-hour periods.

[DrTimPerkins]

I think we can agree that Biblical scholars with far greater credentials that any of us have spent centuries debating these writings (and translations) and have arrived at interpretations ranging from 6,000 years (strict new earth creationism interpretation) to nearly 14 billion years (strict old earth creation interpretation). I readily admit to NOT being a biblical scholar, although I have read the bible numerous times, and have taken some courses where this has been studied. Regardless, I don't think we will resolve this question here (or in my lifetime).

[sapmaple]

"In six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the seas, and all that is in them" (Exodus 20:11). Genesis 1 and 2 are historical narratives. I understand the content literally, not figuratively or poetically. Thus, the "days" of Genesis 1 are days - periods of time that have "evening" and "morning". There is nothing in the language of the Bible's creation account to indicate that the days were longer than 24-hour periods.

2 peter 3:8" But beloved , be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years , and a thousand years as one day"
I would say clearly our creator sees a ''day" quite different then we do
just for the record I believe the climate has been changing since creations beginning and will continue to change over time, and we as man may or may not have an effect on it good or bad. In the end the ability for us to live here on earth and to continue making Maple Syrup from Maple trees lies in God's hand not ours

[markcasper]

2 peter 3:8" But beloved , be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years , and a thousand years as one day"
I would say clearly our creator sees a ''day" quite different then we do
just for the record I believe the climate has been changing since creations beginning and will continue to change over time, and we as man may or may not have an effect on it good or bad. In the end the ability for us to live here on earth and to continue making Maple Syrup from Maple trees lies in God's hand not ours

References to 2 Peter 3:8 have no connection to the creation account.

[SeanD]

References to 2 Peter 3:8 have no connection to the creation account.

Nor to a warming trend in winters in the Northeast, nor to climate change, nor to communism. And for that matter, your Biblical references don't have any connections to those either.

[BreezyHill]

[QUOTE=eustis22;333403>the earth and universe were made in 6, 24 hour days.

Ref: Inherit the Wind.

>Nitrogen fertilizers

So basically half of the amount used in the U.S. is used for feed and pasture. Nearly 5 metric tons per acre. Not to worry. As the feed lands dry out the factory herds will start shrinking.[/QUOTE]


So it has been a while since I was in bible school but since a day is the time period of one cycle of the sun then how do we know how long a day was prior to the formation of the sun and moon to separate day and night?

So if one is to believe the amount of 5 metric tons per acre that would mean 11,000# per acre and with there being 43560 square feet in an acre and the last load of urea we had delivered was 45 # / bushel( 1.24cu') that would be about 245 cu ft of urea on an acre on about a layer 9.7 inches deep. You can burn a hayfield off with as little as 100# of Nitrogen(217# urea) per acre. so there must be something that is missing in the calculation of 5 MTons per acre.

Thanks for the humorous thread. LOL

[mudr]

While I feel religion has nothing to do with this, I will play along and go down the rat-hole....


Numbers 35:33-34

You shall not pollute the land in which you live, for blood pollutes the land, and no atonement can be made for the land for the blood that is shed in it, except by the blood of the one who shed it. You shall not defile the land in which you live, in the midst of which I dwell, for I the Lord dwell in the midst of the people of Israel.”

The bible says don't pollute. That should be good enough for those that read it.

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[eustis22]

>making Maple Syrup from Maple trees lies in God's hand not ours

Funny,I never see God tapping.

[psparr]

Eustis you may be offended by this, but I just said a prayer for you.