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    Default Help! Flames out the chimney pipe!

    Boiling last night in my not-quite legal shed and shooting a bunsen-burner type flame into the sky. I was glad my neighbors would not call the fire department. I have read about air-over fire, but I really don't want to get that high tech. I have a 4-foot cinder block/fire brick evaporator and a 7-8 foot vertical pipe (6"). I have air coming in under grates (about equal in volume to the 6" round). I burn pine, If I add a lot of wood, I get the chimney flames for 10-15 minutes. If I don't add enough wood, my boil gets pretty wimpy. I've tried reducing air intake, increasing air intake, leaving the top of the door slightly ajar --but no solution so far. Any thoughts for me?
    2015: 17 taps, 2 gallons
    2016: 35 taps, 3.6 gallons
    2017: 60 taps, 2.7 gallons
    2018: 56 taps, 4.7 gallons

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    The main culprit is lack of air. The gasses are starved for oxygen, and once out of the stack have enough air to ignite again.
    first year 2012 50 taps late season made 2 1/2 gals.

    2013 2x6 homemade arch 180 taps. 20 Gals.

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    I had the same issue with my evaporator and two things fixed it:

    I added ceramic blanket between the fire brick and the wall of the evaporator
    so more heat stayed in and I didn't have to run the blower so hard to get a boil.

    I added "baffles" in the flat portion under the pan after the firebox but before the flue.
    That way the flue gases have to go through a longer route and they have some
    Turbulence before they exit. More time to dump heat.

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    Any ideas for an easy fix?
    2015: 17 taps, 2 gallons
    2016: 35 taps, 3.6 gallons
    2017: 60 taps, 2.7 gallons
    2018: 56 taps, 4.7 gallons

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    Can you post a picture of the evaporator?

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    2015: 17 taps, 2 gallons
    2016: 35 taps, 3.6 gallons
    2017: 60 taps, 2.7 gallons
    2018: 56 taps, 4.7 gallons

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    It looks like the ramp at the back your firebox go straight up to the flu. Anything you can do lengthen that path and add turbulence will help. You want the fluegases to dump as much heat as possible before going up the stack.

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    I get flames frequently from the top of the stack on my 18x48" CDL also. No blower, draft open to first notch, about 12' of stack. Can't reduce stack length without adding a couple of elbows. Added some small restrictions this season which helped a little, otherwise it is bricked as designed. The firebox is on the small side so options are limited. A poor design maybe? It does boil well when flames are shooting out.

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    How about a bag of marshmallows, a Hershey bar, some Graham crackers and a sharp stick?
    3,100 taps
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    5 by 14 oil

    Brian

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    Here is what I did with mine. The metal plates at the back extend about 4/5ths of the way across and the fire bricks bring the gap down to about 2.5 inches. The flue gasses have to go back and fourth and tumble around. I get the most vigorous boil right over that section.

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    Sorry it is sideways, it is right side up on the phone and on my computer....

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