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    Default Can I run a wx10 dry?

    Looking at a Honda wx10 or a Generac CW10K pump. Will these pumps burn up if they run dry? (if they finish draining a 55 gallon barrel and I'm 100' away checking on a tap or something).

    Thanks for any insight.
    43° 31' 8" N

    2012: 2 taps 1 quart of something resembling syrup and 1 cup of sugar
    2013: 12 taps 3 gallons of syrup
    2014: 20 taps 4 gallons of syrup
    2015: 25 taps 10 gallons of syrup
    2016: 60 taps 12 gallons of syrup
    2017: 75 taps

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    They have a reservoir that acts as the prime and also keeps the impeller wet even after all sap is pumped out of your tank.
    first year 2012 50 taps late season made 2 1/2 gals.

    2013 2x6 homemade arch 180 taps. 20 Gals.

    2014 40 on 3/16 gravity 160 on buckets.

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    If you've been pumping they will be fine, but you can not run it dry with no liquid in the pump housing. That is how the seals are lubricated.
    Dave Klish, I recently ordered a 2x6 wood fired evaporator from A&A Sheet Metal which I will be converting to oil fired
    Now have solar, 2x6 finish pan, 5 bank 7x7 filter press, large water jacketed bottler, and tankless water heater.
    Recently bought another Gingerich RO, this one was a 125, but a second membrane was added thus is a 250, like I had.
    After running a 2x3, a 2x6, 3x8 tapping from 79 taps up to 1320 all woodfired, now I'm going to a 2x6 oil fired and a 200-425 taps.

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    When i'm pumping I never go to far away. I don't want to be 100' away only to see that the recieving tank is overflowing or hse came out and putting 12,20 or 30 gls of sap on the ground. It also seem to pump better and be easier on the pump if I idle the pump when I'm at the bottom of the tank.
    Dave C.
    2011 - 130 Taps
    2017 - 300 Taps (all gravity)
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    12x18 Sugarhouse
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    Leader Micro2 RO
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    I don't think anything bad will happen in the amount of time it takes you to briskly walk 100'. I do that pretty often. I'll start the pump then gather the buckets that are close to the tank so I have something to do while I wait. Every once in a while I'll get the timing wrong and have to run over and shut off the pump. It's not a Honda, but I think the same principles apply.
    -Ryan


    Went off the deep end. Might be in over my head...

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    There's a check valve in the inlet to the pump to keep liquid in it to keep it primed. It will be okay for a few minutes but if you leave it too long you could turn the sap into syrup.
    Russ

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