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    thanks for the app. another useful tool.
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    2020 - added small vacuum and gravity 5/16 tubing and sap sacks
    N 42* 18' 31."
    W 79* 34' 15."
    https://www.saptapapps.com/map/31868...-aab748a6394e/

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    Nice work, keep it up.

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    Very slick, thanks for making this!
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    2015 - Small operation. 25 buckets. One excited 5 year old and one 35 year old that feels 5 again.
    2016 - One year older. New Homemade 2x4 Arch, Smoky Lake Pan and looking at 52 maples, 17 box elders and 2 walnut trees.
    2017 - Shurflo 4008 hooked to 42 stingy silver maples and a few Norways. A couple buckets on sugars and Norways. 10 box elders.
    2018 - ...a few more taps.
    2019 - ...more taps on 3/16 gravity. This spiral is heading downward in a hurry.
    2020 - 4x400 RO - RB20 (uh-oh!)

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    Just wanted to say Thank You for the app you made I love it
    Quote Originally Posted by thbarrons View Post
    Hey everyone. Getting ready for the season in Northern Michigan. I'm too lazy to boil water to calibrate my thermometer and do basic math......so I made a web app that calculates it for me based on Weather Underground data and the location services of my iPhone. It should work on any mobile phone. Check it out and use it if you want...

    https://www.saptapapps.com/

    Tip: Once the app opens in your browser you can use "Add to Home screen", it has a nice icon.

    Tapatalk users...please note clicking the link to my app doesn't work from within Tapatalk. They display external links within their app and this doesn't allow the location services to work. iPhone/Safari users can click the Safari compass icon in the lower right corner of the tapatalk window to launch it properly. Android/Chrome users can click the menu in the upper right (looks like three dots) and choose the option for "Open with" and that should properly launch it in the browser.
    2015 tapped my tree
    2016 added two neighbors trees
    2017 I tapped my whole street
    Cement block arch
    2018 got me a barrel and put in 2 steam pans still tapping street

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    Have to add my big Thank You also. I've used your app since you posted it to get me within ballpark of syrup. I would check the app everyday I went to boil and if it said 219 when I hit 219 and tested the syrup in my hydrometer it was spot on. Thank you again.
    2011 - 6 buckets
    Stove Top
    2012 - 15 buckets
    2013 - 19 buckets
    Camper cook stove with 3 high propane burners
    Custom made 42x14x7 maple pan with dividers
    2015 - New 12x16 Sugar Shack
    2015 - New Lapierre Propane Evaporator
    2016 - 28 buckets
    2017 - 30 buckets
    2019 - 32 buckets
    2023 - 32 buckets - Good to be back

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    Quote Originally Posted by regor0 View Post
    Nice work, keep it up.
    Quote Originally Posted by thbarrons View Post
    Good question mellondome. I'm not doing anything with elevation and that should not technically be necessary. The only reason water has a different boiling point at higher elevations is a function of the atmospheric pressure at higher altitudes. So it's possible to use an altitude corrected calculation. Here's what I'm doing...

    I'm using the pressure readings from Weather Underground which are calibrated using MSLP (mean sea level pressure).
    https://www.wunderground.com/blog/PW...l-improvements

    And I'm basically using the calculation of Table 2 found on this page and several others on the web.
    http://www.hi-tm.com/Documents/Calib-boil.html which is:
    Boiling point = 49.161 * Ln (in. Hg) + 44.932

    The one thing I would recommend in regards to elevation is that you know the location of your closest weather station the app used for its calculation. I report that right under the temperature readings. If your boiling at a drastically different elevation than where the reading came from you might want to make an adjustment. That's actually something I might try and add to my calculation here soon. As mobile devices get better at reporting their elevation, I could techically correct it against the difference in elevation to the weather station.
    I ask only because my Samsung phone has a barometer built into it. So it gives me the actual pressure where the phone is at. ( Also great for measuring elevation change on lines).

    I also now have a weather station next to the sugarhouse.
    2008 4 buckets
    ~
    2016 1300 vac tubing
    18x24 sugar shack
    2x6 Grimm Lightning w/preheater on natural gas
    7" full bank press
    CDL 600 RO
    2000 Sonoma w/ 200gal tank
    2003 Duramax w/ 500 gal tank
    2 sap guzzling kids
    very patient wife!

    Same ol' addiction

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    Thanks for the feedback everyone glad to hear the app is getting used. Still waiting for a good run to boil up here in Northern Michigan.

    Quote Originally Posted by mellondome View Post
    I also now have a weather station next to the sugarhouse.
    Mellondome, that's cool you have a weather station at your shack. Is it registered with WeatherUnderground and is it getting reported to my app?

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    Thanks! One less gadget that I have to buy

    2014 - Cinder block fire box, 2 roaster pans (thanks Mom), mix of 11 red and sugar maples tapped, 1.75G syrup.
    2015 - Same fire box reconfigured for Smoky Lake 24" x 33" pan. 17 taps on 16 trees with tubing to 5 gal buckets. 114g sap down to 2 3/4g
    beautiful syrup.
    2016 - Cinder block fire box is holding up fine. 20 taps, 155 G sap, 3.37G syrup. Great fun with friends.
    2017 - 21 taps on 5 gallon buckets. Good sap runs and reached my goal of producing 5 G syrup.

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    It shows up in the app.
    Being at 2000+ ft elevation, there is just over 2" Hg difference in msl pressure and actual pressure.
    2008 4 buckets
    ~
    2016 1300 vac tubing
    18x24 sugar shack
    2x6 Grimm Lightning w/preheater on natural gas
    7" full bank press
    CDL 600 RO
    2000 Sonoma w/ 200gal tank
    2003 Duramax w/ 500 gal tank
    2 sap guzzling kids
    very patient wife!

    Same ol' addiction

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    Great App! Thank you! strange that I have a gold star rated weather station and it used my neighbors station instead.

    41.457 x -72.907 148 elevation
    2x4 wood fired evaporator with the "Hercules Blower"
    hybrid pan and backflip preheater by Smoky Lake
    103 taps. 44 on gravity
    All sugar Maples
    7" filter press
    10 x 12 sugar shack
    two very helpful kids
    a wife that thinks I'm nuts

    https://youtu.be/7MiY8qzBKk8
    https://www.wunderground.com/persona...d?ID=KCTCHESH7

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