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    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_XJ View Post
    Question for you: what kind of evaporation rate are you getting on your oil tank arch? I have one of those but it's definitely not air tight, yours looks very nicely done.
    I'm hitting 15GPH this year. I added a twin fan blower at the end of last year that added a bit of efficiency- had been topped out around 12GPH before that. Happy to show it to you or chat via email if I can be of help. I would not say it is as air tight as when I built it any more. Flames are often poking out around the door a bit and either my top rail or pan is out of flat at this point and there is a bit of a gap there. But when I fire it at night there is 2' of flame coming out of the stack!

    Pete
    2017- 17 taps, 3 gallons, stove-top insanity
    2018- 36 taps, 10 gallons, Oil tank evaporator
    2019- 24 taps, 7 gallons
    2020- 27 taps, 5.75 gallons
    2021- 42 taps, 8 gallons
    2022- 48 taps, 8.5 gallons
    2023- 50 taps, 15 gallons
    2024- 46 taps, 9.5 gallons

    Oil Tank Evaporator build

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    Currently boiling off sap from last Friday where I got 1 gallon per tap and today the trees are flowing like crazy and I’m already over the 1 gallon per tap point and the lines are running hard. Weather looks good next week if the buds survive the warm weather tomorrow.

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    Crazy run yesterday! I collected 100 gallons and had to leave probably another 50 in the buckets. I'll grab that today and anything that continued to run into the night. Next week is looking pretty good, probably going to pull the taps on some of the reds though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MRFNY View Post
    Crazy run yesterday! I collected 100 gallons and had to leave probably another 50 in the buckets. I'll grab that today and anything that continued to run into the night. Next week is looking pretty good, probably going to pull the taps on some of the reds though.
    I boiled 105 gallons yesterday (well technically my pans were empty so 10 of those gallons are just to get my level) in about 5 hours which isn't too shabby for a 2x5 setup. I collected another 20 gallons this morning that accumulated overnight and i am thinking based on the freezing temps this morning it should flow again today. Fingers are crossed for next week, its looking good!

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    Had a good run yesterday too and am running out of storage for my concentrate. Today surprised me though, I came out prepared for a huge run and it was mediocre. Taps were flowing though and will probably go though the night.
    2016-2022 - About 8 taps, 1-2 gallons a year
    2023 - 15 taps + New Property
    2024 - 23 taps

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    Quote Originally Posted by crzypete View Post
    I'm hitting 15GPH this year. I added a twin fan blower at the end of last year that added a bit of efficiency- had been topped out around 12GPH before that. Happy to show it to you or chat via email if I can be of help. I would not say it is as air tight as when I built it any more. Flames are often poking out around the door a bit and either my top rail or pan is out of flat at this point and there is a bit of a gap there. But when I fire it at night there is 2' of flame coming out of the stack!

    Pete
    nice, I'll send you a DM to ask about your door setup and how you bricked it...
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    2015: 8 bucket taps (7 red, 1 sugar) on DIY barrel evaporator
    2016: 13 taps (bucket and tube) on block arch and hotel pans
    2017: SAME
    2018: 25 taps on 2x3 flat pan and resurrected barrel arch
    2019: 25 taps...same setup plus DIY 3x150gpd RO filter
    2020: 50 taps, all buckets..."new" oil tank arch setup
    2021: 100 taps (50/50 buckets/3-16 tubing) on 2x4 divided pan
    2022: 150 taps (50/100 b/t) on 2x4 pan with sap warmer pan
    2023: SAME
    2024: 150 taps, added single-post 4x40 RO system

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    I think my trees all got too warm in that consecutive run of 60F+ days...they should have been running hard M-W of this week but it was only a steady trickle and the buckets were sporadic.

    After 3 days I had 100 gallons in the 275g IBC tote (I've filled it in a day before), so I used that to test a new 1" PVC pipe line we repurposed from my neighbors' well so we could pump up out of the drainage/valley my collection point is in.

    Every year about this time, I get stuck up to the wheel wells of my side by side in mud trying to haul a full load of sap up that ridge; no more! We ran just shy of 200' of line (almost ten pieces of 20' schedule 40) straight up the hill and put a check valve at the lowest point with a ball valve in front of it to empty off any backflow...my Harbor Freight 80cc pump sent 100 gallons through it straight up hill in about 3 minutes.

    It's been a short but enjoyable season, I won't complain. And the weather has been incredible, the perfect week to have taken off work. Hope it continues to run for everyone else!
    Last edited by ADK_XJ; 03-14-2024 at 04:28 PM.
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    2015: 8 bucket taps (7 red, 1 sugar) on DIY barrel evaporator
    2016: 13 taps (bucket and tube) on block arch and hotel pans
    2017: SAME
    2018: 25 taps on 2x3 flat pan and resurrected barrel arch
    2019: 25 taps...same setup plus DIY 3x150gpd RO filter
    2020: 50 taps, all buckets..."new" oil tank arch setup
    2021: 100 taps (50/50 buckets/3-16 tubing) on 2x4 divided pan
    2022: 150 taps (50/100 b/t) on 2x4 pan with sap warmer pan
    2023: SAME
    2024: 150 taps, added single-post 4x40 RO system

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    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_XJ View Post
    I think my trees all got too warm in that consecutive run of 60F+ days...they should have been running hard M-W of this week but it was only a steady trickle and the buckets were sporadic.

    After 3 days I had 100 gallons in the 275g IBC tote (I've filled it in a day before), so I used that to test a new 1" PVC pipe line we repurposed from my neighbors' well so we could pump up out of the drainage/valley my collection point is in.

    Every year about this time, I get stuck up to the wheel wells of my side by side in mud trying to haul a full load of sap up that ridge; no more! We ran just shy of 200' of line (almost ten pieces of 20' schedule 40) straight up the hill and put a check valve at the lowest point with a ball valve in front of it to empty off any backflow...my Harbor Freight 80cc pump sent 100 gallons through it straight up hill in about 3 minutes.

    It's been a short but enjoyable season, I won't complain. And the weather has been incredible, the perfect week to have taken off work. Hope it continues to run for everyone else!
    Are you done ADK?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MRFNY View Post
    Are you done ADK?
    ha, yeah - that was my long *** winded way of saying my season is over.

    I'm finishing my last bit of concentrate right now, beautiful night.
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    2015: 8 bucket taps (7 red, 1 sugar) on DIY barrel evaporator
    2016: 13 taps (bucket and tube) on block arch and hotel pans
    2017: SAME
    2018: 25 taps on 2x3 flat pan and resurrected barrel arch
    2019: 25 taps...same setup plus DIY 3x150gpd RO filter
    2020: 50 taps, all buckets..."new" oil tank arch setup
    2021: 100 taps (50/50 buckets/3-16 tubing) on 2x4 divided pan
    2022: 150 taps (50/100 b/t) on 2x4 pan with sap warmer pan
    2023: SAME
    2024: 150 taps, added single-post 4x40 RO system

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    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_XJ View Post
    ha, yeah - that was my long *** winded way of saying my season is over.

    I'm finishing my last bit of concentrate right now, beautiful night.
    HA nice! Congrats on a great season for you. I'm holding out to see what next week brings. Will keep a close eye on the sap but it should be fine since some of my bigger producing sugar maples are in wooded areas and not even close to budding yet.

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