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    FYI guys, I'm loving this thread. Keep it coming. I only have a small orchard, but would love to start grafting and expanding some day. I "jokingly" tell my wife I will retire at 40 and go back to farming for my retirement job, living off of maple, honey, and apple income.

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    Went out today to hang tubing Took a close look at my trees they have buds but the deer are biting off the tops of the trees I will try some fertilizer as we move towards the spring thaw
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    Mudr you can start grafting this year, watch YouTube videos by Stephen Hayes apple grafting.
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    2017- 25 taps -built a 2x3 flat pan, and a fuel tank arch for it. 335 gal 7.34gal syrup.

    2016- 15 taps, 4.3gal syrup boiling on cinderblock arch 3 roasting pans, 1 redneck trash can with a pot, and a turkey fryer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barnbc76 View Post
    Mudr you can start grafting this year, watch YouTube videos by Stephen Hayes apple grafting.
    The biggest holdup is trying to find some place to plant it. I've watched a few videos, it seems easy.

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    Question for the pros, what would be the easiest graft for a beginner to try? I tried practicing the saddle graft, not working too well. I always seem to end up with gaps, I think I need a better knife. I tried a utility knife and a small pocket knife both very sharp. The only graft I feel confident with is the cleft graft but that has limited uses.
    2019- RO
    2018- 25 taps made 8 gal syrup.
    2017- 25 taps -built a 2x3 flat pan, and a fuel tank arch for it. 335 gal 7.34gal syrup.

    2016- 15 taps, 4.3gal syrup boiling on cinderblock arch 3 roasting pans, 1 redneck trash can with a pot, and a turkey fryer.

    2015- 4 taps 44 gals of sap made 2.25 gal of lite syrup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mudr View Post
    The biggest holdup is trying to find some place to plant it. I've watched a few videos, it seems easy.

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    That should not be a holdup at all. Just buy the next lot over and go for it. It only money. Haha

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    Thinking that I am going to start grafting trees myself, I have planted about 125-150 fruit trees,primarily apple, but would like to graft from some trees that I have found that are outstanding producers or hold their fruit longer, for the wildlife. I found a class on Craigslist in ne Ohio that is $70 and you get 2 trees, also there is a nursery near Ithaca that specializes in selling grafting materials, on the website they seemed like they would be very helpful. I am also going to "plant" a few hundred acorns this year in hopes that I can sell some and transplant the rest. Trying to find reasonable priced sugar maples to plant that are decent quality but not having much luck.one other thing when fertilizing make sure you do it with the correct fertilizer and in the proper time, if done wrong it can delay a trees ability to produce fruit, more is generally not better.
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    I was just outside today cutting scions, I have about 15 -6" scions of Mcintosh and 10 of a variety I am still not certain of, it seems to be a heavy cropper, although bienial the apples are small (did not prune or thin) with green, and yellow with pink/red blush when ripe in october they are crisp and very sweet a good eating apple. I have tried to take the apple identy test for it online but I was just going by memory so it gave me a bunch of varieties. Looks like a grimes golden to me, will know better this year as last year there was no apples.

    If anyone wants to trade I have these available let me know, now is the time for most areas to collect them in dormancy.There are specific ways to store scions in refridgerator so you would need to read up on that.
    2019- RO
    2018- 25 taps made 8 gal syrup.
    2017- 25 taps -built a 2x3 flat pan, and a fuel tank arch for it. 335 gal 7.34gal syrup.

    2016- 15 taps, 4.3gal syrup boiling on cinderblock arch 3 roasting pans, 1 redneck trash can with a pot, and a turkey fryer.

    2015- 4 taps 44 gals of sap made 2.25 gal of lite syrup.

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    Great thread. I saw some Golden Hornet crabapples in a local ditch last November and marked the trees with florescent pink survey tape. I am planning to harvest some scions when the time is right. The crabapple jelly and juice that I made from those little beauties was outstanding! My steam juicer was running 24/7 last Fall as most of the crabapple trees around here were loaded!
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    2016 - 25 taps, 1223.5 L sap 28.25 L syrup
    2017 - 21 taps, 518.5 L sap 12.7 L syrup
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    2019 - 28 taps, 1409.5L sap 40.12L syrup

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    Quote Originally Posted by Run Forest Run! View Post
    Great thread. I saw some Golden Hornet crabapples in a local ditch last November and marked the trees with florescent pink survey tape. I am planning to harvest some scions when the time is right. The crabapple jelly and juice that I made from those little beauties was outstanding! My steam juicer was running 24/7 last Fall as most of the crabapple trees around here were loaded!
    Very cool, are you experienced in grafting? I have some crab apple trees, dont know what kind they are, they have large thorns. I am curious can I graft with them? There was an old crab apple tree cut down that send out new shoots, i have considered using them as rootstocks if they would work but it is annoying with the thorns.
    2019- RO
    2018- 25 taps made 8 gal syrup.
    2017- 25 taps -built a 2x3 flat pan, and a fuel tank arch for it. 335 gal 7.34gal syrup.

    2016- 15 taps, 4.3gal syrup boiling on cinderblock arch 3 roasting pans, 1 redneck trash can with a pot, and a turkey fryer.

    2015- 4 taps 44 gals of sap made 2.25 gal of lite syrup.

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