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    Default Diatomaceous Earth filtering question

    So I am curious about using this stuff.....how does it work? Does anyone have a tutorial about how they use it?

    My questions revolve around, how does it actually help with filtering?

    Why couldn't I just take a 5 gallon bucket of syrup, I only made 28 gallons last year, add some DE to the syrup and let it settle, then strain and bottle? From what Ive read the DE somehow helps by absorbing or attaching itself to the Niter?

    Has anyone done this?

    Does it work?

    am I way off? LOL

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    Here's some good reading:

    http://www.uvm.edu/~pmrc/filter_press_brochure.pdf

    The diatomaceous earth (DE or filter aid) does not "adsorb" suspended particles in the syrup so your bucket method won't work. The DE becomes the "filter" as it is captured on the surface of the paper filters in the filter press by the flow of syrup being pumped through it.
    Last edited by CharlieVT; 11-17-2016 at 01:06 PM.

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    So unless you have a filterpress or one of those canister filters, its basically useless in other applications.

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    All I have to say is we only made 30 gallons last year and I would rather give my right leg then give up our 7" short stack filter press. Search around for a used one if you want to save some $$$ but do yourself a favor and get one!

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    A few producers, and some of them who make hundreds of gallons or even 1000+ do not use a filter press, but some do infact use DE or filter aid. They mix it in, then use flat filters and prefilters. Check some posts from a few years ago by mountainvan. He used DE and flat filters and he does lots of syrup.
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    Someone somewhere may have done that for whatever reason but try both methods and 9 of 10 people will use the filter press!!!! I know I would ....

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    I did as Flats said and used DE with flat filters with very good but slow results for 2 years before getting a press. 30-40 gallons/year was the most I would do that way. It did work well.
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    If you want clear syrup a pressure filter press is a must.
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    we did 155gal in the last year BP (before press). wondering why it took so long. we used another producers press once in the BP era and were immediately convinced
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maple Ridge Farm View Post
    If you want clear syrup a pressure filter press is a must.
    This is not true. As I said, I used filter aid and flat filters prior to using a press and had crystal clear syrup with the " polished" look to it. The bad part was the wasted syrup, and very slow filtering.
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