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    Did you need to replace the diaphragms yet? I see Zoro gets $135.16 https://www.zoro.com/aro-pump-repair...43/?q=G1876043 for the kit, and QP & C gets $72.53 for the same kit http://www.qpandc.com/Pump_Parts-Pum...t_Fluid_4.html
    I like to have rebuild kits for my critical pumps when possible.
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    Dave Klish, I recently ordered a 2x6 wood fired evaporator from A&A Sheet Metal which I will be converting to oil fired
    Now have solar, 2x6 finish pan, 5 bank 7x7 filter press, large water jacketed bottler, and tankless water heater.
    Recently bought another Gingerich RO, this one was a 125, but a second membrane was added thus is a 250, like I had.
    After running a 2x3, a 2x6, 3x8 tapping from 79 taps up to 1320 all woodfired, now I'm going to a 2x6 oil fired and a 200-425 taps.

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    No I did not. Didn't need to.

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    I have the same as Tuckermtn and like it for the most part. Simple and easy to take apart. I've had some issues with the check flappers sticking shut because of being sugared up, but since it's easy to take apart, it's only a 5 min fix. I have torn a diaphragm before and had to order a repair kit...think it was $200+, but could be wrong. I do have issues with pumping cold syrup in the middle of the winter...takes forever. I have ordered leader's air operated drum pump to resolve this issue, and it pumps so much faster anyways. I would've ordered another one if needed, but the ARO pump is appealing...pumps more too.
    Josh

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    I have a 7" Wes Fab Short Bank and my gear pump is spewing syrup. Figure I will upgrade to one of these air pumps. Are these 2 units discussed here a good match with the 7"?? Not sure if you guys have larger presses or if that even makes a difference. Do I need to buy anything else to convert over (I have a compressor) to this pump? A control valve of some sort?
    More taps than the year before. Bigger shack than the year before. Leader Patriot 2x6 w/hood. 3-post Dolly, but still too much sap and not enough wood or time.
    www.wickedsappy.com

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    I just got a Yamada pump from PumpCatalog online. Lapierre advertises Yamada, so figured it must be a decent choice. Think it's the NDP15-BAH, 435+ shipping. Repair kit is like 75.
    Tim Whitens
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    Fulton, NY

    3000 on vacuum, 3hp 3ph Busch pump, 2567 Gast
    30X8 Leader oil-fired evap. w/ steamaway
    Airablo 1000 RO
    6 Alpacas

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueberryHill View Post
    I have a 7" Wes Fab Short Bank and my gear pump is spewing syrup. Figure I will upgrade to one of these air pumps. Are these 2 units discussed here a good match with the 7"?? Not sure if you guys have larger presses or if that even makes a difference. Do I need to buy anything else to convert over (I have a compressor) to this pump? A control valve of some sort?
    I have the the plastic Warren. Started with it on a 7" cast iron. Same pump is now on a 10". I would seriously look at some of the aluminum pumps others are pointing out as the price looks way better than when I got my plastic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueberryHill View Post
    I have a 7" Wes Fab Short Bank and my gear pump is spewing syrup. Figure I will upgrade to one of these air pumps. Are these 2 units discussed here a good match with the 7"?? Not sure if you guys have larger presses or if that even makes a difference. Do I need to buy anything else to convert over (I have a compressor) to this pump? A control valve of some sort?
    I think an air filter is a good idea, and certainly an adjustable regulator. Very nice to be able to adjust the ingoing pressure.
    Tim Whitens
    Willow Creek Farm
    Fulton, NY

    3000 on vacuum, 3hp 3ph Busch pump, 2567 Gast
    30X8 Leader oil-fired evap. w/ steamaway
    Airablo 1000 RO
    6 Alpacas

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    I just run an air drier/filter and a ball valve. Have not seen a need for a regulator.
    William
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    I like to slowly run the pressure up, so I'm not putting too much pressure on the papers till it's good and hot. I'll get several boils off a full bank, and starting slow helps heat it up without all the pressure, I feel.
    Tim Whitens
    Willow Creek Farm
    Fulton, NY

    3000 on vacuum, 3hp 3ph Busch pump, 2567 Gast
    30X8 Leader oil-fired evap. w/ steamaway
    Airablo 1000 RO
    6 Alpacas

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    Any other thoughts on this subject? I am seriously considering replacing my filter press pump as a new motor is half the price of these pumps you guys are sharing experiences about.

    This seems like a good option: https://www.pumpcatalog.com/yamada/d...ries/dp-10bat/

    Rated to 212 F, PTFE Diaphragms, and a decent price.

    Or this one: https://www.pumpcatalog.com/yamada/n...ies/ndp-15fpt/

    Not aluminum but this one has 1/2" fluid ports which seem advantageous and a better price.
    Last edited by GeneralStark; 03-13-2018 at 04:13 PM.
    About 750 taps on High Vac.
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    16 x 22 Sap Shed w/ 1500 gal. + 700 gal. tanks
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