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    Thank you Jeremy. I sent them a request to inform me when back in stock.
    For those folks looking to build one of your cream machine. they should check out this site. Buyfittingsonline.com they have 1" stainless steel pipe all length with sanitary fittings on each end. Also 3 way valves with sanitary fitting and more!
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    Quote Originally Posted by WoodButcher View Post
    looks like it moved to here, but its not in stock..
    https://moonshinedistiller.com/large...-clamp-ferrule
    I think that is where I bought mine. Very easy to work with. I got a different one. Looked at it and changed my mind. I paid return shipping and they sent me one like in the photos above.
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    Do you think a 1/2" gear pump would work? Not looking at overly large batches of cream and figured that a 1" or even a 3/4" gear pump would need a larger volume of syrup to work good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis H. View Post
    Do you think a 1/2" gear pump would work? Not looking at overly large batches of cream and figured that a 1" or even a 3/4" gear pump would need a larger volume of syrup to work good.
    Size of batch should not matter. Mine is 1”. I usually cook about 2.5 gallons each time. When I was gathering parts 802 Maple told me a 1/2” filter press pump to worn to build pressure to filter would work to make cream.
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    With the 1" machine that I built, I wasn't sure it was going to work, so my first batch of cream used only 1/2 gallon of syrup to start with and the machine worked perfectly.
    Chad

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    I would also consider checking out Dudadiesel for 3 way stainless valves and ProFlowDynamics for the camlocks.
    Chad

    2014: 12 taps, 5 gal buckets
    2015: 15 taps on bags
    2016: 150 taps: 100 on bags, 50 on 3/16" natural vac, 2x8 AUF/AOF Homebuilt Arch, 2x8 SL Drop Flu & Auto Draw, SL Propane Canner/Bottler
    2017: 225 taps: Built Lean to, Added SL hood, preheater, concentric exhaust, SL SS 7" SB Filter Press
    2018: 180 taps: Added Shurflo to 50 - 3/16", Auto fill sensor to head tank
    2019: No tapping
    2020: 175 taps
    2021: 300 taps, homemade RO and releaser
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    I've been checking in on the funnels and they seem to be back in stock now

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    The funnel is solid and sturdy. The bottom of the funnel is a 2" sanitary fitting (Not 1.5" like most our maple equipment.) I had to look for a while to find a 2" sanitary to 1" male NPT to fit the pump, but smaller sizes were readily available. I did find one on Ebay after much searching. Just an FYI for those building a cream machine.

    Additionally, I've now made two batches of cream and the second batch was cooled to 46 degrees. It barely went down into the 1" opening on the Oberdorfer pump. The take away is either keep the taffy a little warmer (my first batch was 65 degrees) to use in a smaller pump, or go with the 1" pump. In fact, I blew a breaker because it was so thick initially. I'll also say, I had no difference in outcome of the cream between 46 degree or 65 degree taffy. Both had no crystal feel to them.
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    Chad

    2014: 12 taps, 5 gal buckets
    2015: 15 taps on bags
    2016: 150 taps: 100 on bags, 50 on 3/16" natural vac, 2x8 AUF/AOF Homebuilt Arch, 2x8 SL Drop Flu & Auto Draw, SL Propane Canner/Bottler
    2017: 225 taps: Built Lean to, Added SL hood, preheater, concentric exhaust, SL SS 7" SB Filter Press
    2018: 180 taps: Added Shurflo to 50 - 3/16", Auto fill sensor to head tank
    2019: No tapping
    2020: 175 taps
    2021: 300 taps, homemade RO and releaser
    2022: 600+ taps

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    If you want to reduce the funnel down from 2" tri clover to 1 1/2" triclover then here is an option.
    https://www.brewershardware.com/Tri-...2_5-X-1_5.html

    If you wan to reduce the 2" tri clover down to 1" then here is an option.
    https://www.brewershardware.com/TCCRED20X10.html

    I think I would use the 2" to 1" reducer then get a 1 1/2" by 1" male Threaded tri clover fitting. The 2 x 1 reducer would flow better I think. Yeah it would add some to the overall height but not too much.
    Last edited by Dennis H.; 11-26-2017 at 09:38 AM.
    1st Generation Hobby Maple Producer, you got to start somewhere.
    222 Taps, all on Vacuum! No more buckets.
    Lapierre 2'x5' raised flue w/Hood and Preheater
    Surge SP11, Lapierre Hobby Releaser
    Modified 5" Filter Press made by Daryl with a Gear Pump
    Homemade 2 membrane RO
    Kabota RTV Sap Hauler

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    What are the lengths of the pipe sections or nipples you used. If I go by eye from your picture it looks like you used a 6" nipple off the pump then an 18" nipple off the valve going up then another 6". Is that close?
    600 taps on vacuum
    Lapierre mechanical Releaser
    CDL electric releaser
    2.5 x 10 CDL Venturi ( new for the 2024 season )
    Home made modulating auto draw off
    Homemade RO 2 x 4" membranes
    CDL 16 x 16 bottler
    Wesfab 7" filter press
    Delaval 73 vacuum pumps

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