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Thread: 1HP Gear Pump Style Cream Machine Under $900 - Pics/Parts List/Build

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    Building a cream machine was my project this year, but I keep picking it up and putting it down and never making any progress. Holiday season is coming up, so this is shooting up my priority list.

    I looked into ordering the materials at the start of the thread, but some of the items are no longer available...gear reducer comes to mind. Is there another source for these at a reasonable price? I don't know anything about them, so I don't know how specific they are.

    Fortunately, the funnel is still in stock. How much taffy can you put in this funnel?

    Woodbutcher. Thanks for putting the leg work into building this, and then taking the time to post everything. Very handy.
    Josh

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    you can make 2 gallon batches if you wanted (2g raw syrup). its a big funnel. i just did a 2g batch this spring and if i recall it was getting up there but doable.

    as for the reducer, the best place i found ebay. lots of industrial warehouses wanting to get rid of them. just follow my general guidelines in the initial posts on what to get. dont get too wrapped around the axle about the ratio. im sure if you get one within the range of 50-200 rpm youll be fine.

    good luck.

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    Reduction on my homemade. 4561097B-65D9-45A1-AE12-C43AE7186F7C.jpg[ATTACH=CONFIG]18806[/ATTACH

    I like this because I can adjust the speed. I turn it up when running hot syrup to clean sweet out and water after to clean.
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    Great. Thanks Jeremy. I haven't used ebay in years...kinda forgot about it. I did find some there.

    Any reason not to use a 3/4" gear pump w/ a 3/4hp motor? Figure it might be a bit cheaper and weigh less?? I have to carry this from the basement to the kitchen.

    Here's one I found on Amazon. Price isn't bad. Weird that it doesn't come with an output shaft though.

    This one is on ebay. Will it work? Used, but includes output shaft.

    This is the best price I found on an electric motor...including shipping. Amazon motor

    So, does the shaft of the motor fit into the hole in the input side of the reducer? Assuming there's a key on the shaft.

    Wiam. I've never heard of a power block before. I did a quick search online, but the ones I found were for much smaller motors.

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    I just googled zero max Y2. Found I got a wicked deal. Mine was used with a 3/4 hp for $125.

    Found this though https://m.ebay.com/itm/DODGE-TIGEAR-....c100935.m2460
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    Very good post here, very helpful with making a good quality machine. I found a funnel (5 gallon) http://www.bubbasbarrels.com/tri-cla...nel-5-gallon-0, that Im looking to use, the funnel can be ordered with a 1 1/2" furrel on it. Glad to have come across this post, thanks all who have all put their input.

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    All you guys who are running a 1hp, have you guys run into it where it seems like 1 hp ain't quite enough power? or havent you run into any issue with it whats so ever?

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    Tonka

    I run a 1 hp motor and have never had it bog down a bit. In one of my earlier posts on this thread, I commented that if I were to make another one, I would consider downsizing to a 3/4" and 3/4 hp motor. I wouldn't go larger than a 1 hp motor.
    Chad

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    Wow is there some sticker shock looking at the price increases on some of these parts (if they are even available). Almost makes getting an actual cream machine look like a steal. 😑

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