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  1. #11
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    I have checked rechecked 100 times for leaks and I use Teflon tape on everything. This is my second year. I also changed the diaphragm. I am curious to know what everyone gets when u deadhead the pump. Do you get 20" or no? I know I don't. I was told that these pumps really need sap in them to reach the best vac
    FIRST GENERATION SUGARMAKER
    First boil 2/22/2012! Went Pefect!
    3,500' of laterals
    1,000' of mainline
    2012 - 105 taps on gravity, 12 sap sacks.
    2013 - 175 taps on gravity, 25 on sacks = 200 taps for 2013! Second year.
    2014 - 250 taps on gravity, 25 on sacks
    Tapped on February 16, 2014
    2015 - adding vac sap puller no more gravity for me!
    275 gallon holding tank for 2014
    20'x30' Sugarhouse

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    just hooked mine up yesterday . I bought one of those vac leak finders from CDL and took off through the woods starting at the pump. I found all my vac gauges were garbage!. I just started working my way through all the lats. I found leaks that you never would have thought would be leaking, like little nicks, scratches in lats. picking up new vac gauges today will find out what vac is, we have had this pump 20+". Our other pump we lucky to get 15-18" but it turns slower.

    on our high vac bush i was finding vac leaks 15' away. I would turn up volume stand still and point the wand around the woods at the lines, these were leaks you probably wouldnt have found normally.
    we started at around 15/16 and once done had 24/25. there were several very obvious leaks, cracked check valves and drops pushed off T's. will walk line again see if i find more
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    125 on Sap Suckers
    Close to 475 High Vac
    400 gravity adding more
    leader 2x6
    home made preheater
    hoods
    1 7D749 for AOF
    New FLS Tsunami Arch
    4 membrane TR Industries RO 2HP 3 phase 601GPH 250 PSI
    PID Display for Arch Temp.
    Chumlee of the trader

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    I only got like 15" if I deadhead pump and they definitely need SAP for best vac,wen i put water to it i got 25" i was just messing around with it in a 5 gal bucket wen i got 25" but im going to put a recirculater on mine, thinking about plugging off a piece of 5/16 and drilling a small hole in plug going to start out with a 1/16 or smaller hole and see wat that does

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    You should get 15-20" with the pump running and putting your hand over the inlet, when there is fluid running through it i have seen as high as -25"
    Greg Halladay
    Modified D&G 18" x 7' oil fired arch
    with 18"x 4' 5" drop flue back pan, and 18"x3' front pan, new 20' x 32' sugar house built in 2013, 375 taps in 2016 using a Sap Puller.

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    25" on 200 taps

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    That is what I am thinking of doing as well. Will run it right into tank. Also I have a check valve on both inlet and outlet
    FIRST GENERATION SUGARMAKER
    First boil 2/22/2012! Went Pefect!
    3,500' of laterals
    1,000' of mainline
    2012 - 105 taps on gravity, 12 sap sacks.
    2013 - 175 taps on gravity, 25 on sacks = 200 taps for 2013! Second year.
    2014 - 250 taps on gravity, 25 on sacks
    Tapped on February 16, 2014
    2015 - adding vac sap puller no more gravity for me!
    275 gallon holding tank for 2014
    20'x30' Sugarhouse

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    I would love to hear more about the solar set up? I want a pump but I'm in the same boat, I would need power of a battery and a charger.
    2011-73 taps, Barrel evaporator, Made 16 Gallons, http://s1126.photobucket.com/albums/l603/palmer4th/
    2012-100-120 taps, flat pan 2x6 http://s1126.photobucket.com/albums/...Sugar%20Shack/
    2013- 150 taps, added blower http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amlowhYM0as

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    Does the check valve on the outlet side help with vac? I thought about putting one on but don't want to waste money if it won't help. I was disappointed today started my pump and only had 13" found a few leaks that will be fixed tomorrow today was my first day of good running weather

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    Palmer 4th,
    So far so good. the battery needs to be swapped out on days like today, the temps have been above freezing for over 36 hours with little sun. so I have a second battery that I do swap out with. but the battery just keeps chugging along. make sure you get a large deep cycle battery. they cost me $96 at walmart

  10. #20
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    I have a Guzzler and I cant imagine not having it. Its in a small bush with a 135 taps and 2 sap ladders ,there short ladders but the land on 1 end is really flat. I emptied it today, at 11 am and at 5pm I had 60 gallons back in the tank, to some people that might not be much. To me when we haven't had a freeze in 6 days, its awesome. I change out the batteries on mine every 12 hours or so, . Its pulling 18 inches now and doesn't flinch ,best investment Ive made besides my filter press. I have check valves on both sides and mine dead heads around 16 inches if that helps ADK1.
    2011 2x6 leader and 125 taps and 30 buckets
    2012 another 200 taps on line and an addition to the sugar house
    2013 hoping to hit 400 taps on line and 25 buckets and adding a sap Guzzler
    2014 Brand new D&G 3x10 traditional evaporator and going to 450
    2015 D&G 3x10 and kicking the door on 500 on line
    My wife Marci who puts up with me buying "Maple Stuff"
    1 65 yr old father inlaw who is priceless
    And the good Lord above Amen
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