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    Default guzzler pumps

    I bought my first guzzler pump this year and i am going to put a filter or strainer on and I am wondering what others are using and were you can get one I was thinking a mesh stained would be better any suggestions?

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    You can use something like this inline screen strainer. They come in different pipe sizes so you van get the one you need. The link I posted is for Tractor Supply, but you can find them online. They are used in sprayers so companies like Banjo, TeeJet and Hypro make them.
    http://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/pro...n?cm_vc=-10005
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    I actually have not added any kind of strainer or anything and have had no issues however I also do not run the pump until the sap starts running naturally on gravity.
    FIRST GENERATION SUGARMAKER
    First boil 2/22/2012! Went Pefect!
    3,500' of laterals
    1,000' of mainline
    2012 - 105 taps on gravity, 12 sap sacks.
    2013 - 175 taps on gravity, 25 on sacks = 200 taps for 2013! Second year.
    2014 - 250 taps on gravity, 25 on sacks
    Tapped on February 16, 2014
    2015 - adding vac sap puller no more gravity for me!
    275 gallon holding tank for 2014
    20'x30' Sugarhouse

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    Thanks for the suggestions guys also is anybody running a check valve on the output side of the pump, does it help hold better vacuum my vacuum fluctuates 2-3 inchs wondering if it would help maintain it

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    I ran a guzzler for 2 years without a strainer and never had a problem due to ice. The second year I ran the guzzler like others run a vacuum as far as running it over night. As long as the temps did not go below 28 degrees for about 2 hours I let it run all night (I used a weather app on my phone).

    As far as your vac dropping, I think you may have a leak. Once max vac is reached (I had 22-26 depending on weather and sap production) it should not fluctuate. I did not use a check valve on the output. I had very good results with the guzzler. If you would ike some photos and videos of my setup I used PM with an e-mail and I will send them to you.

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    Tapping since 1985 (four generations back to early to mid 1900s). 200-250 taps on buckets and then tubing in the mid 90s. 2013- 275 taps w/sap puller 25 gal. 2014-295 taps w/sap puller 55 ga. (re-tapped to vacuum theory) 2015-330 taps full vac. 65 gal, 2016-400 taps 105 gal, 2017-400 taps 95 gal. 2018-additional 800' mainline and maybe 400 new taps for a total near 800 taps. 2x6 Leader WSE (last year on it) supported by a 250 gph RO.

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    Got pump set up in woods last week pulling 21" on 200 taps with some obvious leaks now just waiting for some warm temps to find and fix them all hopefully in the next couple days

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    So I have just finished setting up my guzzler pump in the woods. I have a 12v dc version, It is about 15 minutes from my house so I also have added a 100w solar panel and a thermostat switch. It is setup to startup when the temps reach 33 and it turns off at 31.5. It ran the first time the other day when the temps here were at 50. I have 370 taps and it maintained 19". I have never seen the sap run that well in those woods, I got 290 gallons in one day there.
    I also added a banjo inline stainless steel screen so that no ice will get in the pump. So far everything seems to be working well. my tubing system was not setup for a vacuum system, so I do have 10 drops on some laterals, however, I did add 100 taps this year with only 5 drops per lateral. But as I have heard so many people say before, any vacuum is better than no vacuum.

    So far, I'd have to say with just under $1,000 dollars invested in the pump and all the fittings, battery, charger, solar panel, thermostat etc.. this little thing can perform well and has already impressed me with only one day running. I will try and keep you all posted, if there is anyone else out there thinking about getting one of these.

    solar setup.jpg
    Last edited by MikeVT; 02-28-2016 at 06:11 PM.

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    The best I have ever done with the guzzler is 15" and that is at the pump no idea what is it at the end of the line
    FIRST GENERATION SUGARMAKER
    First boil 2/22/2012! Went Pefect!
    3,500' of laterals
    1,000' of mainline
    2012 - 105 taps on gravity, 12 sap sacks.
    2013 - 175 taps on gravity, 25 on sacks = 200 taps for 2013! Second year.
    2014 - 250 taps on gravity, 25 on sacks
    Tapped on February 16, 2014
    2015 - adding vac sap puller no more gravity for me!
    275 gallon holding tank for 2014
    20'x30' Sugarhouse

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    The first time I set pump up I only got 13" off the pump but after thread tape and msking sure all connections were tight It was pulling 26" at pump. Hoping after I fix leaks I will be over 22" in the woods

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