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    Default Firebrick vs blanket?

    I bought a new to me evaporator. Is there a downfall to blanketing the whole evaporator? Or should I got with bricks? I'm in a time crunch. Blanket would go a lot quicker. Don't . Want to ruin evaporator though. Thanks

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    Insulation will make your unit more efficient and keep the heat under the pan. Some people don't insulate because they like the heat the arch puts into the room, your choice. You can stand right beside an insulated arch, but cant stand beside an Uninsulated arch, bricks or no bricks.
    Just using insulation only is tricky because as you load wood, you will probably catch and damage the insulation. Bricks are used to keep the fire off the walls of the arch as to not damage the steel, same as in a wood stove in houses.

    I would get a few bricks in there as a minimum.

    Hope that helps.

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    More info. on the type of rig would be helpful but if it is a wood arch you will want brick to protect the insulation (blanket or board) from the wood. You can still use blanket higher up in the firebox and in places where the wood won't damage it.

    If it is an oil rig then blanket will be fine.
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    Thanks for the replies! It is a wood fired 2x6 with a raised flue back pan and flat front pan. I have brick for it and was going to use brick for the firebox or at least where the wood would be thrown in. I was told I could use vermeculite (probably butchered the spelling) on the top of the arch under the back pan.

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    I insulated my entire evap with blanket. I put bricks only where the wood would be loaded and they were installed over the blanket
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    I ordered some. I will put bricks in firebox and blanket the rest. Hopefully it holds up. Thats really my only concern is the longevity

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    Mine been going for 4 years no indies
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    Blanket insulation has a long life as long as doesn't get damaged from something hitting it.
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    This is what I just did. Blanket then cover the areas that the wood will hit with bricks. Brick on top is for brushing the flues and not damaging the blanket.

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    I guess a good follow up question would be how far should I be away from top of arch/bottom of raised flue?

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