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    After the warm day and night Friday, the trees are starting to bud. And we have a good freeze coming tonight and into next week. So, I'll keep checking the sap for viability, but the signs are not looking so good. We needed this cold snap, and the snow forecast, last week to slow things down a little.

    Concentrating right now and will do a test boil to see how good the sap is. I'm just below last years totals, and would like to keep going.

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    Well, once again, through the magic of the MacBook Pro, my data for this year has been lost. But fear not, as I do still have a memory. Total for this year was 40 gals. I had hopes for more, but the weather did not cooperate. I don't have the average sugar content and the other daily details I log. I can report that if you bottle in glass, the best investment you can make is in a filter press. Absolutely a game changer. The RO isn't far behind though, despite the breakdown of the Procon pump. The pump is at EDCO in California undergoing a rebuild (Procon's certified service partner) at less than half the cost of a new replacement.

    Excavation is underway for the 12x20 shack expansion, and getting close to forming up the slab. The existing part of the shack will get a concrete floor once I can move everything to the new section. I'm also gathering up timbers for the timber frame, but don't yet have enough (I need a portable sawmill to speed this part up).

    More updates to follow.
    Gary / Zena Crossroads / 42˚ 00' 24" N / Hobby in Early '70s, Addiction since 2014

    175+ taps on 3/16 (60 of which are on two Lunchbox Vac/Releasers)
    12x34 timber framed sap house w/attached 10x34 shed roof for storage
    2 x 6 Smoky Lake hybrid pan on Corsair arch with AUF/steam hood/preheater/concentric exhaust
    7.0 KW Sun Power PV System, Smokey Lake Filter Press/Steam Bottler, Modified NGMP RO - 2 4x40 posts 200 gph

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    For the sawmill, there is likely a sawyer who will come to your location and saw it. If you go that route, I suggest you have the logs placed on 2 rails (a log near each end 90 degrees to where the mill will set) and then have all of the logs on those rails and ready to go. That is how I used to like them when I did custom on site milling (I now only do my own).
    Dave Klish, I recently ordered a 2x6 wood fired evaporator from A&A Sheet Metal which I will be converting to oil fired
    Now have solar, 2x6 finish pan, 5 bank 7x7 filter press, large water jacketed bottler, and tankless water heater.
    Recently bought another Gingerich RO, this one was a 125, but a second membrane was added thus is a 250, like I had.
    After running a 2x3, a 2x6, 3x8 tapping from 79 taps up to 1320 all woodfired, now I'm going to a 2x6 oil fired and a 200-425 taps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maple flats View Post
    For the sawmill, there is likely a sawyer who will come to your location and saw it. If you go that route, I suggest you have the logs placed on 2 rails (a log near each end 90 degrees to where the mill will set) and then have all of the logs on those rails and ready to go. That is how I used to like them when I did custom on site milling (I now only do my own).
    So far the guys I have talked to either want to cart the logs to their mill ($$$), or if they have a portable, they are now into tree work and have no time for such other work. I use a chainsaw mill when I have time, but that takes an incredible amount of time per log. I'm waiting for one of the tree guys to confirm a date. We'll see.
    Gary / Zena Crossroads / 42˚ 00' 24" N / Hobby in Early '70s, Addiction since 2014

    175+ taps on 3/16 (60 of which are on two Lunchbox Vac/Releasers)
    12x34 timber framed sap house w/attached 10x34 shed roof for storage
    2 x 6 Smoky Lake hybrid pan on Corsair arch with AUF/steam hood/preheater/concentric exhaust
    7.0 KW Sun Power PV System, Smokey Lake Filter Press/Steam Bottler, Modified NGMP RO - 2 4x40 posts 200 gph

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    Try joining The Forestry Forum. In there you will find a bunch of leads and if you don't find one close enough just post in the sawmill category, someone will answer. They have over 36,000 members.
    Dave Klish, I recently ordered a 2x6 wood fired evaporator from A&A Sheet Metal which I will be converting to oil fired
    Now have solar, 2x6 finish pan, 5 bank 7x7 filter press, large water jacketed bottler, and tankless water heater.
    Recently bought another Gingerich RO, this one was a 125, but a second membrane was added thus is a 250, like I had.
    After running a 2x3, a 2x6, 3x8 tapping from 79 taps up to 1320 all woodfired, now I'm going to a 2x6 oil fired and a 200-425 taps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maple flats View Post
    Try joining The Forestry Forum. In there you will find a bunch of leads and if you don't find one close enough just post in the sawmill category, someone will answer. They have over 36,000 members.
    thank you Dave. will give that a try.

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    When you join, If they ask how you heard about them, say Maple Flats sent you, they know me.
    Dave Klish, I recently ordered a 2x6 wood fired evaporator from A&A Sheet Metal which I will be converting to oil fired
    Now have solar, 2x6 finish pan, 5 bank 7x7 filter press, large water jacketed bottler, and tankless water heater.
    Recently bought another Gingerich RO, this one was a 125, but a second membrane was added thus is a 250, like I had.
    After running a 2x3, a 2x6, 3x8 tapping from 79 taps up to 1320 all woodfired, now I'm going to a 2x6 oil fired and a 200-425 taps.

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    Baby, it's cold outside.
    Gary / Zena Crossroads / 42˚ 00' 24" N / Hobby in Early '70s, Addiction since 2014

    175+ taps on 3/16 (60 of which are on two Lunchbox Vac/Releasers)
    12x34 timber framed sap house w/attached 10x34 shed roof for storage
    2 x 6 Smoky Lake hybrid pan on Corsair arch with AUF/steam hood/preheater/concentric exhaust
    7.0 KW Sun Power PV System, Smokey Lake Filter Press/Steam Bottler, Modified NGMP RO - 2 4x40 posts 200 gph

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    Forecast is looking up for the near future, although I may have to let a few more days go by before I tap anything. I'm closing in the addition to my maple barn (three sides done), and I still have to set up the new evaporator. It all looks good, but it's been a tough winter to be working outside. Cold and snow. Seemingly endless snow. Also waiting on some supplies for the season.

    Seems the same every year. I'm never ready to go at the start of the season. I have to plan better next year.

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    I say the same thing every year. Always try to do better and fail.
    2004 - 2012 2x3 flat pan 25 to 60 taps
    2012 2x3 new divided pan w/draw off 55 taps
    2018 - didn't boil surgery - bought new evaporator
    2019 new SML 2x4 raised flue high output evap. 65 taps
    made 17 gal. syrup
    2020 - only put out 53 taps - made 16.25 ga.l syrup
    2021 - Didn't work out
    2022 - 25 taps on bags / 8 taps on 3/16's line - late start

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