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    Default sap surging?

    noticing it more this year than years past.
    while into boiling about 1 hr after i fire(every five minutes) about half way through the time the float will start to surge in then it just gets bouncing. When time comes up to fire open door throw wood in quick close door float settles right down and does good for another couple minutes starts surging again.

    any one any one any one?
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    My evaporator has always done this until it really gets rolling and have a continuous draw of syrup. I have blamed it on head pressure as when the head tank is low it settles down alot. I have lowered my tank this year but have not tried it yet. (no sap) The only time mine didnt bounce is when sap is entering at a constant rate.
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    Thanks for your response waanabe1972,

    lowered head tank this year to a couple feet above float. it seems to do it if tank is full or low (100 gal). once I get rolling sap is constant coming in. I thought maybe I have steam stack to closed on hood so I opened it all the way and that didnt seem to change anything.
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    Flat Lander Sugaring (who would think a guy from Az be making syrup)
    125 on Sap Suckers
    Close to 475 High Vac
    400 gravity adding more
    leader 2x6
    home made preheater
    hoods
    1 7D749 for AOF
    New FLS Tsunami Arch
    4 membrane TR Industries RO 2HP 3 phase 601GPH 250 PSI
    PID Display for Arch Temp.
    Chumlee of the trader

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    i would get kinda the samething happening the float box would surge because of the head pressure from the tank added a inline valve to control it some and it has solved the problem this far
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    I also added a valve to mine and turned it until it didn't surge but my problem was it seemed like on a long draw off the sap would not maintain a proper level. I really don't have enough taps for a 2x8 and with the RO it's even worse . I don't usually ever boil more than 2 to 3 hours at a time and I make big batches sometimes as the gradient never really gets established. I am going to run the outlet of my head tank a foot higher than my float and try this.
    2021 230 Taps on vacuum
    Smokylake 2X6 pan set with auto drawoff
    Homebuilt 2 4x40 membrane RO
    Homebuilt filter press
    Rebuilt arch with under and over the fire air we have named V 2.0
    Smokylake steam bottler
    Hoods and preheater
    500 gallon vertical polytank to store sap for RO
    Adding a laser eye to my bottler for autofill/stop

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