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    Default Squirrel cage blower

    Hey all,

    I have a smokey lake 2'/5' hybrid on a block arch. Last year I used a cheap duct booster for my auf. However, those fans do not last. I would like to use a squirrel cage blower this year, something that will last. I plan on running between 5'-10' of duct from the back wall to the front of the arch, it will take 2 90 bends. Right now I have a register boot entering the arch under the grate/door that is 6" diameter to a rectangular opening.

    My question is, what models have others used for a similar set up. On graingers website, there are a ton of options, ranging ranging in cfm and price. Ideally, I would like to use a dimmer type switch to adjust the cfm.

    What are your recommendations? I mention grainger because they have one of their big facilities 1 town over.

    Thanks
    2013 20 taps; 2'/4' flat pan with dividers/preheater on block arch, about 4 gal
    2014 about 125 taps on 2/5 smokey lake hybrid pan; 34 gals
    2015 about 125 taps, same pan, just over 40 gals syrup
    12'/12' post and beam sugar house

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    I don't have have a blower, but you might want to consider using a router variable speed power cord vs. the dimmer switch. They're designed to handle much higher loads and they're relatively cheap from Harbor Freight. I believe others on the site have had good success with them in this application.
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    2013 - 44 taps - 16 gallons syrup, 2014 - 109 taps - 26 gallons syrup
    2015 - 71 taps - 13.5 gallons syrup, 2016 - 125 taps - 24.25 gallons syrup
    2017 - 129 taps - 17.5 gallons syrup, 2018 - 128 taps- 18 gallons syrup
    2019 -130 taps - 18.5 gallons syrup, 2020 ~125 taps-19.75 gallons syrup

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    I picked up a squirrel cage blower last winter at the local scrapyard. They had a pile of small furnace type blowers there. I think I paid $1 for it. Works great on a dimmer switch.
    2'x4' Smoky Lake Hybrid Pan, Copper parallel flow preheater & hood, 23'x12' Sugar Shack, 170 taps, One chocolate lab to help collect sap, Brookfield, Nova Scotia

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    Last year I put a small squirrel cage blower in my drum evaporator. I got it from a guy that has the greenhouses that are plastic with two walls inflated with a blower. It's not very big, the round intake hole is 3-4"
    in diameter. I drilled a bunch of 1/2" holes in an old driveshaft the length of the barrel. I then capped the door end and made a flange to mount the blower on the stack end. I drilled a hole sized to the diameter of the driveshaft in the lowest part of the barrel below the grate. I slid the thing into the barrel from the stack end. It worked too well so instead of using a dimmer; I made a plate that swings over the intake hole in the blower to restrict the air flow. Works awesome.

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    Ok. I will look into that variable speed control from harbor freight, and we do have a scrap yard nearby, I will see what kind of blowers they have there
    2013 20 taps; 2'/4' flat pan with dividers/preheater on block arch, about 4 gal
    2014 about 125 taps on 2/5 smokey lake hybrid pan; 34 gals
    2015 about 125 taps, same pan, just over 40 gals syrup
    12'/12' post and beam sugar house

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    I use the blower motor from our old furnace that I replaced. I made a frame to hold it off the ground and a dimmer switch dial from the hardware store to control the air flow. Works great and I was able to recycle the blower motor instead of taking it in for scrap. The only cost was the price of the Dimmer switch!
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    2x 1000L totes
    100 cup coffee urn for bottling

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    32 buckets and drop lines
    Homemade oil tank arch
    2x5x10" flat pan
    2x1x10" Pre heater
    24x14 wood shed/sugar shack
    57 L of syrup finished though
    Electric transfer pump
    A bunch of other homemade items

    2012
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    3x 55 gallon plastic storage barrels one with tap to gravity feed sap
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    Quote Originally Posted by Outdoorsman0490 View Post
    ...I plan on running between 5'-10' of duct from the back wall to the front of the arch, it will take 2 90 bends. Right now I have a register boot entering the arch under the grate/door that is 6" diameter to a rectangular opening.

    My question is, what models have others used for a similar set up. On graingers website, there are a ton of options, ranging ranging in cfm and price. Ideally, I would like to use a dimmer type switch to adjust the cfm.

    What are your recommendations? I mention grainger because they have one of their big facilities 1 town over...
    http://www.grainger.com/product/DAYT...&cm_vc=IDPRRZ1

    Ended up using this squirrel cage blower from Grainger. I'm pretty happy with the results.

    Why is the duct work so long and require bends? I hung my AUF fan from the back end of the firebox and ran an extension cord.
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    You might actually be better off (and cheaper) if you find the right squirrel cage blower and mount a flap that can be moved on the air inlet. That is how all of the draft blowers I worked with on outdoor wood furnaces were. That is cheap and simple. When I had only AUF I used a squirrel cage blower and made a slide gate damper to adjust the air, it worked very well.
    Dave Klish, I recently bought a 2x6 wood fired evaporator from A&A Sheet Metal which I will be converting to oil fired
    Now have solar, 2x6 finish pan, 5 bank 7x7 filter press, large water jacketed bottler, and tankless water heater.
    Recently bought another Gingerich RO, this one was a 125, but a second membrane was added thus is a 250, like I had.
    After running a 2x3, a 2x6, 3x8 tapping from 79 taps up to 1320 all woodfired, now I'm going to a 2x6 oil fired and a 200-425 taps.

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    Still working? The description says not for use with speed controllers.

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