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    Default Something funny about 2014 State grade kits

    Is it me or are the new state grade kits wrong - I thought the light transparently for what was Fancy and Grade A Golden Color with Delicate Taste were suppose to be 75% which I thought meant they were equal; however, if you take the 2013 kit and the 2014 kit there is a significant difference in color...what is the story.
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    Your talking the new grade kit with 3 bottles in it right? Yea I will never make the new "fancy" unless I put a airinjectoni kit in syrup pan.
    There deffinately a difference between the two
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    The break points ARE different from what they used to be.
    Dave Klish, I recently ordered a 2x6 wood fired evaporator from A&A Sheet Metal which I will be converting to oil fired
    Now have solar, 2x6 finish pan, 5 bank 7x7 filter press, large water jacketed bottler, and tankless water heater.
    Recently bought another Gingerich RO, this one was a 125, but a second membrane was added thus is a 250, like I had.
    After running a 2x3, a 2x6, 3x8 tapping from 79 taps up to 1320 all woodfired, now I'm going to a 2x6 oil fired and a 200-425 taps.

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    Chumlee correct - I just got a new kit with the three bottles... According to the VMSMA newsletter of February 2014 the light transparency for Fancy (under the old grading system) and Grade A Golden Color (new grade system) have a light transparency of 75%tc. If the light transparency for both old and new is 75%tc than why the difference in color? I believe that the VMSMA needs to come out with an explanation of the difference in color when the light transparency factor is the same. Try to explain to our customers why the transparency factor is the same but the color is different.
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    At Goodrich's open house Henry Marckres stated that the
    Golden Color with Delicate Flavor sample was an incorrect shade and to replace it with the Fancy sample from an old set and they would be correcting it and provide replacement samples

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    The golden color in the kits is wrong. It is too light. I was told this by mary croft from vsma.

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    It's to bad that VMSMA hasn't sent out any notices to its members about the wrong color in the grade kits.
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    I just thought we were getting SHAFTED by Light transparency like we did with the new names and nothing we can do about it.
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    So do all new grading kits sold in 2014 have the wrong sample transparency for GD? Is this the only sample that is incorrect?
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    Do we call Bascoms to get a replacement??
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