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    Default Paraformaldehyde found in Quebec

    Went to my Farmer's Market last Saturday and a customer asked if I used paraformaldehyde in my trees, to which I replied no as it`s illegal to. She said they were in Quebec, so I did some Google searches.

    http://www.torontosun.com/2014/02/20...rup-production

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...ticle17261481/
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    The spokesman for federation has a good point though. Other areas are'nt going to find what they're not looking for. Quebec should be commended for their commitment to quality.
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    Ah look at it this way, they say the penalty is dropping the grade to commercial yet still buying it. If they buy it it makes it into the federations supply, therefore the federation basically admits that there syrup supply now has paraformaldahyde in it......wow, I just got a great new selling technique that proves my syrup is much safer than Canada's
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    Thats a mistake that'll no doubt cost them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmayerl View Post
    wow, I just got a great new selling technique that proves my syrup is much safer than Canada's
    Really? 3 out of 10,000+ producers in Quebec and you lump all Canadian maple producers together. Pretty sad...
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    I wonder how many producers in the states and other provinces are using paraformaldehyde where nobody is looking for it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ennismaple View Post
    Really? 3 out of 10,000+ producers in Quebec and you lump all Canadian maple producers together. Pretty sad...
    The article says 15. And yes I lumped all federation SYRUP together, not producers as you suggested. The federations stand on it is stated very simply that they buy the syrup and penalize the producer with a "fine"
    That is what I said.
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    ...One problem with enforcement is that formaldehyde occurs naturally in maple sap...

    We had discuss of this articles in a French Qc. Forum. FPAQ still buy and downgrade syrup after testing it. Testing of the syrup is made by Centre Acer, independant from FPAQ. Since they dont find any residual harmfull chemicals in Syrup, they cannot refuse it. FPAQ make a lot of surprise inspection in tapping times, taking wood sample in random taps for analyse..
    Cheaters are Cheaters... remember a guy name Lance Armstrong ?

    How much documented producers taps inspections from Vermont authorities (or others States) could you show us from the past three years ?
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    Three producers number wise is nothing. One bad story getting on social media and we are all screwed, US or canada. At least till miley what's her name or justin who really cares do something stupid and focus all the hipsters on them. That should be very soon by my calculations. Until then, keep up the good work up north, we'll try not to do anything too stupid down here!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mountainvan View Post
    Three producers number wise is nothing. One bad story getting on social media and we are all screwed, US or canada. At least till miley what's her name or justin who really cares do something stupid and focus all the hipsters on them. That should be very soon by my calculations. Until then, keep up the good work up north, we'll try not to do anything too stupid down here!
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