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    Quote Originally Posted by bowhunter View Post
    Flatlander,

    How's the RO running these days?

    Dave
    Ok, I really need the bigger pump, can barely go from 2.2. To 5.2 now sap is cloudy. I'm going to deffunately put the rwcirc line in for next year.. pressure can't get to 250 any more, not sure why new prefilter still don't get up there, came pump might be wearing out
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    Flat Lander Sugaring (who would think a guy from Az be making syrup)
    125 on Sap Suckers
    Close to 475 High Vac
    400 gravity adding more
    leader 2x6
    home made preheater
    hoods
    1 7D749 for AOF
    New FLS Tsunami Arch
    4 membrane TR Industries RO 2HP 3 phase 601GPH 250 PSI
    PID Display for Arch Temp.
    Chumlee of the trader

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    We had a good freeze here last night ,hoping for a run today, Im boiling off the 200 gallons I have in the tank and what ever else comes in . I blew the diaphragm on the Guzzler, if it wasn't this late in the season I would panic, it has been a true season saver. Im pretty sure the CDL store in Rutland is carrying replacement parts for them now . Im still hanging in the sap still looks good ,I took down 4 buckets that the sap was yellow but otherwise it still looks good. Take care all ,Al
    2011 2x6 leader and 125 taps and 30 buckets
    2012 another 200 taps on line and an addition to the sugar house
    2013 hoping to hit 400 taps on line and 25 buckets and adding a sap Guzzler
    2014 Brand new D&G 3x10 traditional evaporator and going to 450
    2015 D&G 3x10 and kicking the door on 500 on line
    My wife Marci who puts up with me buying "Maple Stuff"
    1 65 yr old father inlaw who is priceless
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    I'm positive we can figure out how to make your system work much better. You have plenty of membrane. The 250 GPH CDL Hobby also has three 4 x 40 membranes in series and a ProCon pressure pump, but it also has an expensive 10 GPM recycle pump. We surely can find a lower cost option that would improve your performance. The 150 GPH CDL uses two 4 x 40 membranes in parallel with one pump....can't remember which pump now. In any case you need enough recycle flow to keep the recovery down below 15% and closer to 10% so it doesn't foul so quickly. We might be able to use a ProCon pump as a recycle pump. My little ProCon runs fine wide open with less than 30 PSI on the discharge.
    Leader 1/2 pint - Kawasaki Mule - Smoky Lake Filter Bottler
    24 GPH RO, 2 1/2 x 40 NF3 (NF270), 140 GPH (Brass with no relief valve ) ProCon pump
    2013 - 44 taps - 16 gallons syrup, 2014 - 109 taps - 26 gallons syrup
    2015 - 71 taps - 13.5 gallons syrup, 2016 - 125 taps - 24.25 gallons syrup
    2017 - 129 taps - 17.5 gallons syrup, 2018 - 128 taps- 18 gallons syrup
    2019 -130 taps - 18.5 gallons syrup, 2020 ~125 taps-19.75 gallons syrup

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    I called it quits Wednesday night. Sap was at 0.8 and very cloudy. Could only get a couple thousand gallons through a brand new set of five prefilters for the RO. Very slimy. Wasn't worth the risk to the RO. Sap is still flowing great. A gallon per tap a day without the vacuum on. Ended up with .3 gallons of syrup per tap. No light, alittle borderline med./dark, a little dark, and the rest B. Tough year. But then again, when isn't it.
    shrunken producer, from 8,000 taps to 4,000 to 5800 to 9500 to 11,000 vac
    5x16 woodchip fired evaporator with 5x10 max flue and 5x6 revolution front pan
    CDL 20+ RO
    Double 10"filterpress

    sp-11, bb2, airtech L63, L160, L230 vac pumps
    CDL low profile electric releaser
    MES 8000 electric releaser
    CDL 4000 tap mechanical releaser

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    I am going to pick up larger motor and pump for next year. Fluid o teck has a 720/260 pump I think with 1" inlet and discharge. I could possible use existing pump and motor as recirc pump. Boiling 11.4 last night was awesome.
    Hey Lake let me know if you boil tomorrow I will come over.
    Business Name
    Flat Lander Sugaring (who would think a guy from Az be making syrup)
    125 on Sap Suckers
    Close to 475 High Vac
    400 gravity adding more
    leader 2x6
    home made preheater
    hoods
    1 7D749 for AOF
    New FLS Tsunami Arch
    4 membrane TR Industries RO 2HP 3 phase 601GPH 250 PSI
    PID Display for Arch Temp.
    Chumlee of the trader

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    any sap than ran and was not boiled that night with the warm temp will also cause it to be off flavor,no buds this way except the soft maples and they just started coming out on thurs,no sign of anything on the hard maples

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    My son and I got done today about 6.We boiled 100 gal we got last night.Turned the guzzler on about 9 am and had good flow in the tanks.There is 250 gal in the tank and we will boil early in the am.This past Thursday,we got 665 gal of sap,we just finished that up yesterday.Still 2 foot of snow in the woods,but is going fast.Going to keep going as long as I can.
    2012- 200 buckets 2 by 8 woodfired leader evaporator with hood and pre-heater. 2013-400 taps with cheek valves and new tubing system. 2014-600 taps with cheek valves and wesfab short bank filterpress and a 16 by 16 canner from Leader and a Kubota L3200 sap hauler.2016- new 250 gas powered Ro from Deer Run Maple. New Airablow 1000 tap gas powered vacuum pump and 1000 tap duel releaser and 1800 ft of sap transfer line to sugar house and down to 540 taps.

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    Buds are still tight here. However, the sap is getting cloudy. Going thru pre-filters way too fast. Still going to try for some this week, then will pull the plug. For today I have 810 gal of sap to do plus what is in the 2 tanks at the bushes. CV2 Taps are still running, after tapping 1/14-1/21.
    Dave Klish, I recently ordered a 2x6 wood fired evaporator from A&A Sheet Metal which I will be converting to oil fired
    Now have solar, 2x6 finish pan, 5 bank 7x7 filter press, large water jacketed bottler, and tankless water heater.
    Recently bought another Gingerich RO, this one was a 125, but a second membrane was added thus is a 250, like I had.
    After running a 2x3, a 2x6, 3x8 tapping from 79 taps up to 1320 all woodfired, now I'm going to a 2x6 oil fired and a 200-425 taps.

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    So far so good, but Steve/Bucket Head would be the better judge of the sap from my line.
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    Looks like I made a mistake. the rest of the week looks like perfect sugaring weather......does sugar content normally go up after a couple cold nights???
    2012-6 taps on a homade barrel boiler made 3 pints
    2013-200 taps 12X20 sugarhouse on a waterloo 2X6 made a disappointing 10 gallons
    2014-450 taps on waterloo 2X6 made another disappointing 20 gallons
    2015-450 taps all vac on leader 3X8 with pre heater and hood

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