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Thread: LOL,,When I suck on the lines, how much vaccum ??

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    Default LOL,,When I suck on the lines, how much vaccum ??

    I can just imagine the replies I may get from this post, but, will post in hopes of an honest answer.

    When I pull a 5/16 tube from one of my 5 gallon collections buckets and suck on the tubes, I can see sap being pulled from the taps. If I don't suck, the sap is not flowing. I suck and then hold my tongue on it to hold vacuum, it kind of hurts the tongue after 10 seconds or so, lol.

    So, while I am looking like a fool, bent over sucking on a line,,,,How much pressure by comparison I am pulling as to what a Shurflow pump will do? Can I suck better than a Shurflow, LOL.

    I do see the benefits of a pump, just have to wait for next year.

    I can only imagine the replies this post may cause, lol.

    Serious question though.

    Thanks.
    2011- 35 taps, ,,,milk juggs and buckets-propane turkey fryer !!
    2012 -75 taps,,,,, 40 on tubing into buckets, and 35 buckets - 3nd hand Homemade arch, brutal.
    2013- Just over 115 taps and still adding more.
    2014, new SS flat pan and new arch built, guessing 75-100 taps this year.
    2015, 50 taps on Shurflo pump.
    2016- Getting a line across my creek this year.
    2017-took a year off, Jamaica was fun !
    2018- 45 trees tapped, keeping it fun !

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    Hi Terry, when our past vacuum pump was only reading 5" of vacuum, I proved to my Father that wasn't worthwhile as I could suck on the vacuum guage and only get 5", so not much going on way out in the line with the friction loss of the tubing, length etc.
    7th generation maple producer in sugarhouse built in 1892
    2x World Champion Maple Syrup Producer
    1250 taps on cv adapters
    Leader Vortex 3x14 with Max Flue and Revolution Syrup Pan,Enhanced Steam Away
    www.leggettmaplesyrup.com

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    Terry, if you can get your hands (mouth) on a vacuum gauge, you will get a hard number. I'm pretty sure a person can't blow even one pound of pressure, but it seems that I can remember getting the needle to move on a vacuum gauge.

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    Boy the conversations when the taps are pulled!
    first year 2012 50 taps late season made 2 1/2 gals.

    2013 2x6 homemade arch 180 taps. 20 Gals.

    2014 40 on 3/16 gravity 160 on buckets.

    http://omasranch.wix.com/omasmaple

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    I have pulled down a vacuum guage down to 29 inches before by mouth. Its crazy but most people can do this in fact.
    3X10 Lappiere Cross Flow Raised Flue
    Lappiere 250 Turbo RO
    800 ish taps??? for 2015
    rossellsmaple.com

    MAY THE SAP BE WITH YOU

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    One year I hired a guy to suck sap out of my trees but it turns out he was drinking most of the sap so I had to fire him.
    2012: Probably 750 gravity taps and 50 buckets.

    600 gal stainless milk tank.
    2 - 100 gallon stock tanks
    one 30 gal barrel
    50 buckets

    3' x 10' Waterloo Raised Flue wood fired evaporator w/ open pans.

    12" x 20" Filter Canner

    Sawmill next to sugarhouse solves my sugarwood problem

    Gather with GMC 3500 2wd Pickup w/ 425 gallon Plastic Tank.

    Been tapping here in Lyman NH since 1989 but I've been sugaring since 8 years old in 1968.

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    The front tire on my tractor is about 12 lbs low, my air compressor is broke, can you blow it up for me?

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