About 750 taps on High Vac.
2.5 x 8 Intens-O-Fire
Airtech 3 hp LR Pump
Springtech Elite 500 RO
14 x 24 Timber Frame SugarHouse
16 x 22 Sap Shed w/ 1500 gal. + 700 gal. tanks
www.littlehogbackfarm.com
I have a 51cfm pump on 3000 taps, I have a north and west facing exposure. trust me when the pump is off the sap is frozen. I have a mechanical releaser in a heated building. Here is my reasoning for a Busch Pump. I had a liquid ring pump and it did ok as far as the vacuum went but the maintenace was a PITA for me. My set up is in a remote location away from the sugar house, I had to pump service water to it and keep a fan on it to keep it cool . When the weather was cold I had to keep it from freezing, as the weather warmed I needed to try to keep it cool. as the season progressed it was harder to keep vacuum . So I spent the money and bought what I felt was best for me.
Last edited by Dave Y; 03-27-2014 at 06:53 AM.
William
950 taps
3 X 12 Thor pans on a Brian Arch
CDL 600 expandable
It is indeed the ideal situation and was a key component in the design of my new sugarhouse. In my previous situation I had a mechanical releaser in a plywood box on the tank and would put a heat lamp in the box to keep the releaser from freezing up. But, it was only 40' from the sugarhouse. 1600' is a different story.
About 750 taps on High Vac.
2.5 x 8 Intens-O-Fire
Airtech 3 hp LR Pump
Springtech Elite 500 RO
14 x 24 Timber Frame SugarHouse
16 x 22 Sap Shed w/ 1500 gal. + 700 gal. tanks
www.littlehogbackfarm.com
Hi Tim, You should have told me you were on the maple trader when you stopped at my sugar house Sunday. I'm going to upgrade my RO situation first then maybe we can talk about your Busch pump some more. I want to know more about the VFD and your long term experiences with it.
Russ
"Red Roof Maples" Where the term "boiling soda" was first introduced to the maple world!
1930 Ford Model AA Doodlebug tractor
A couple of Honda 4 wheelers
Four chainsaws and no chickens!
We are using two VFDs now. One to control the vacuum pump and the other to control a sap transfer pump. I understand they are starting to be used in RO machines instead of valves to control pressure and flow speeds while concentrating and while washing. They are computer controlled inverters. They can be destroyed by lightning or power surges so they need surge suppressors. I disconnect them from the power supply in the off season. I bought mine online. There are lots to choose from. Look for one that can take single phase input and output three phase. Most of them take three phase input, if you use one of those you need to oversize the VFD by 30%. The VFDs are capable of doing lots of different things. Finding the section in the manual that applies to our use takes a while. Then understanding the directions of how to set it up also takes a while. Once set up they work great. They provide motor speed control and overload protection in one box. A regular motor starter isn't needed to prevent motor burnout or a fire. I get the feeling that they have a shorter lifespan than the motor or the pump but I don't know that. I consulted with the electrician at Bascom before setting it up. I got mine online after looking at the one bascom was selling with the 3 HP Busch pump. I would be happy to show you mine.
http://www.northfamilyfarm.com
Tim
2,500 taps on two pipelines
Busch Vacuum Pump
MES Three Phase Three Post RO
2X10 Leader Vortex Max Flue pan, Enhanced Steamaway
Electricity made with wind and solar
I'm in my third year with my Busch setup, and love it. 3hp 59 cfm for 2200 taps, maintaining 27-28 inches right now, and going to look for more leaks today. I have only a single electric moisture trap, which did it's job the one time it has needed to. The only trouble I ever had was putting too thick an oil in it for off season storage one year. Was shutting down on high amperage, but I also found I had to set the upper limit for amps, too. Now I use WD40 at end of season, or whenever it will be off for an extended period. Using with electric releaser with Goulds centrifugal pump, and has worked flawlessly.
Tim
Tim Whitens
Willow Creek Farm
Fulton, NY
3000 on vacuum, 3hp 3ph Busch pump, 2567 Gast
30X8 Leader oil-fired evap. w/ steamaway
Airablo 1000 RO
6 Alpacas
Raining1....you might note that this thread is originally from about 7.5 yrs ago. You might have better luck on these old threads (topics) by starting a new thread specific to your particular question, or even better, first try to Private Message (through MapleTrader) the person who specifically had info about your question so their attention is brought to your query. Otherwise, people might not even bother reading it.
Dr. Tim Perkins
UVM Proctor Maple Research Ctr
http://www.uvm.edu/~pmrc
https://mapleresearch.org
Timothy.Perkins@uvm.edu